[HN Gopher] Ask HN: MoonPay vs Stripe - who will become the web3...
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       Ask HN: MoonPay vs Stripe - who will become the web3 payment
       solution?
        
       I am wondering about what HN thinks about web3 payment solutions
       and if Stripe is already too late after the huge MoonPay funding
       round.  MoonPay funding: https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-
       fintech-moonpay-reportedly-aims-for-3-4b-valuation-in-first-vc-
       funding
        
       Author : ck_one
       Score  : 5 points
       Date   : 2021-10-20 20:52 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
       | aliswe wrote:
       | web3?
        
         | ck_one wrote:
         | web3 == crypto. People use this term more often lately since
         | crypto has a bad reputation.
        
       | colesantiago wrote:
       | Why Stripe? Can't they just acquire MoonPay and be done with it?
        
         | ck_one wrote:
         | I think the situation will be similar to when Zuck tried to
         | acquire Snapchat. MoonPay is sitting on a gold mine and they
         | know it.
        
       | Arvand wrote:
       | Stripe has incredible distribution. For the many merchants
       | already using Stripe, enabling cryptocurrency payments could,
       | depending on its implementation, be as easy as toggling a switch.
       | That's a lot easier and less costly than integrating a new
       | payment processor from scratch. For new merchants, adopting
       | Stripe would mean being able to accept cryptocurrency payments
       | AND benefitting from Stripe's existing product suite and
       | experience. They've solved a lot of difficult problems really
       | well.
       | 
       | Despite the head start other crypto payment processors may have
       | had, imo none have yet been able to produce a developer
       | experience (or even just documentation) anywhere near the quality
       | of Stripe. Also, that "head start" might be a head start in
       | accepting crypto specifically (though Stripe did do this at one
       | point), but it's not a head start when it comes to accepting
       | payments, more generally. I think the things that make Stripe the
       | best payment processor will translate pretty smoothly into making
       | them the best crypto payment processor, too.
       | 
       | I'm not certain that Stripe will become the number one
       | cryptocurrency payment processor, but I think it's likely. I
       | certainly wouldn't put it past them.
        
         | buchanaf wrote:
         | This plus the fact that accepting crypto payments is relatively
         | trivial compared to processing and handling the VAT and sales
         | tax for a billion jurisdictions that also happen to change all
         | the time.
        
         | ck_one wrote:
         | I am not sure if the relationship to merchants will be enough
         | here. MoonPay has relationships to 250+ wallets - this is where
         | lucrative on and off ramp is happening.
        
           | NicoJuicy wrote:
           | Under 5 million revenue / year for Moonpay. That's 20 k. /
           | Wallet integration.
           | 
           | Let's not get carried away here, that's peanuts.
           | 
           | Even BitPay, that runs since 2011 only has 23 million
           | revenue/year
        
             | ck_one wrote:
             | I doubt that revenue per wallet is a uniform distribution.
             | At the end there will only be a few wallets left. If you
             | sign them now you will get all their business. Phantom has
             | already announced to use MoonPay. OpenSea, the biggest NFT
             | marketplace, also uses MoonPay.
        
               | NicoJuicy wrote:
               | I'm not saying it's uniform, as always you only need a
               | couple of integrations.
               | 
               | And the ones you missed out, you're probably never going
               | to receive a payment from them either way.
        
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