[HN Gopher] List of IEEE Milestones
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       List of IEEE Milestones
        
       Author : agomez314
       Score  : 56 points
       Date   : 2021-10-20 11:08 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
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       | onionisafruit wrote:
       | I was surprised to see Ben Franklin as the first milestone. As an
       | American I knew of the famous kite flying story, but I assumed he
       | was merely a wealthy hobbyist. I didn't realize his experiments
       | were important enough to be considered a milestone much less the
       | first milestone.
        
         | not2b wrote:
         | Franklin was first to propose a way of proving that lightning
         | was an electrical phenomenon. It was actually Thomas-Francois
         | Dalibard who was first to run the experiment (a month before
         | the famous kite experiment by Franklin), but Dalibard based his
         | version of the experiment on a proposal by Franklin, so
         | Franklin is properly credited.
        
         | dec0dedab0de wrote:
         | I thought this was common knowledge, but now I'm thinking it is
         | because I grew up near Philadelphia and have been to the
         | Franklin institute many times.
        
           | JoeDaDude wrote:
           | Also recommended: A visit to the Benjamin Franklin Museum in
           | Philadelphia where they have reproductions of equipment
           | Benjamin used to experiment (end to entertain guests) with
           | electricity, such as a Leyden jar and voltaic cells.
           | 
           | https://www.nps.gov/inde/planyourvisit/benjaminfranklinmuseu.
           | ..
        
           | JoeDaDude wrote:
           | Dagnab it! No Philadelphian has posted a selfie with the
           | Benjamin Franklin milestone. Must remedy that situation...
           | 
           | http://ethw.org/Milestones:Milestones_selfies
        
         | yitchelle wrote:
         | I also agree that it is strange as I would have thought human
         | triggered electrical events would have been conducted much
         | before Ben Franklin's.
        
         | adrian_b wrote:
         | The experiments of Franklin are an important milestone, but
         | they should have not been the first.
         | 
         | The first milestone should have been the invention of the
         | electrostatic generator (first in 1663 by Otto von Guericke,
         | then several improved types during the next century).
         | 
         | The availability of the electrostatic generators was the event
         | that started the rapid evolution of the science and technology
         | of electricity and magnetism.
         | 
         | Until the electrostatic generators, during 2 millennia, the
         | knowledge about electricity and magnetism consisted just in
         | being aware of the same 5 phenomena that were well known to the
         | Ancient Greeks, i.e. the attractive properties of magnetite,
         | amber and tourmaline (which is pyroelectric), and the stunning
         | effects of electric fishes (2 were known in antiquity: torpedo
         | and electric catfish) and of the lightnings.
         | 
         | After the appearance of the electrostatic generators, doing
         | electric experiments became a fashionable activity for many
         | educated people and there was an avalanche of discoveries that
         | advanced very quickly the science of electricity.
         | 
         | After the invention of the electrostatic generators the most
         | important milestone was one present in the IEEE list, the
         | invention of the electric battery by Volta.
         | 
         | The experiments with electrostatic generators were limited by
         | the impossibility of providing continuous electrical currents.
         | 
         | That became possible with the Volta battery, which started the
         | second avalanche of discoveries, including such important
         | things like the connections between electricity and magnetism.
         | 
         | While the experiments of Franklin were indeed a milestone,
         | especially because of his definitions of the positive and
         | negative electricities, without electrostatic generators he
         | would have never done any experiments.
        
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       | rta5 wrote:
       | Is it correct to interpret this as the IEEE not recognizing any
       | milestones since 1994? They have a list of items being
       | considered, but such a large gap makes me think the milestones
       | program is one of IEEEs low priority, nearly forgotten
       | activities.
        
         | Jtsummers wrote:
         | > 4) The achievement must be more than 25 years old.
         | 
         | From the guidelines on milestones, linked near the top of the
         | page. Given that, it's at most behind by 2 years now.
        
       | VLM wrote:
       | The milestones switch from journal articles to corporate press
       | releases at some point.
       | 
       | They miss the vibrant and interesting marketplace technology
       | transitions.
       | 
       | I can think of several marketplace transitions that were never
       | journal articles nor corporate press releases:
       | 
       | The conversion of home/personal sized computers from linear power
       | supplies to switchers.
       | 
       | The widespread eventual total conversion of home appliance-type
       | wall warts from transformer based linear supplies to switchers.
       | 
       | The conversion of radar from multi-KW pulsed magnetron to multi-
       | watt solid state doppler.
       | 
       | "Successful" deployment of multiple trunking-style public safety
       | radio networks.
       | 
       | Generally speaking the widespread conversion of personal
       | electronic appliances from vacuum tube to transistor
       | 
       | The personal appliance transition from barrier-strip and point-
       | to-point wiring technologies to PCB
       | 
       | The two marketplace transitions from memory limited sprite based
       | video displays in the 6502 era to early VGA era simple large
       | memory backed bitmaps back to very complicated parallelized 3d
       | accelerated video cards.
       | 
       | The gradual marketplace conversion from simple voice phone in-
       | band signaling to computerized out of band signaling from the 70s
       | thru 90s. And I suppose the later marketplace conversion to voip.
       | 
       | The marketplace conversion from computer full control front
       | panels pre 1980 to various post 1980 mass storage bootstrap
       | systems still used today.
       | 
       | The marketplace era of closed source compilers, IDEs, languages,
       | etc. There was a day back when you'd have to pay $5000 to compile
       | Fortran and you liked it. Now the idea of paying anything for a
       | compiler looks weird to most devs.
       | 
       | The marketplace conversion from 4:3 squarish video to widescreen
       | and the GUI designs that still haven't caught on to wide-screen-
       | ness in the 2020s...
        
       | bradhe wrote:
       | Weird that there hasn't been a "milestone" in 15 years. What do
       | you think that means?
        
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