[HN Gopher] Nokia 6310
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       Nokia 6310
        
       Author : busymom0
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2021-10-15 16:47 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nokia.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nokia.com)
        
       | vadfa wrote:
       | Why do they keep releasing new phones reusing the model numbers
       | of old phones? Nostalgia angle, I get it, but it's messy.
        
         | nottorp wrote:
         | This is the 3rd reuse of 6310 i think? I had one and it had a
         | b&w screen...
        
       | config_yml wrote:
       | I really don't want a smartphone, but what I need in a simple
       | device like this is a camera for qr code scanning and support for
       | 2factor apps.
        
       | subhrm wrote:
       | 0.3 MP camera in 2021! Why ?
       | 
       | At least put a decent camera. 8 MP one would've been great.
        
         | busymom0 wrote:
         | I would have preferred if it didn't have a camera at all.
        
       | tomas789 wrote:
       | Looks like Nokia just called the guys who were designing 3310 and
       | told them to make a new phone :)
        
       | garaetjjte wrote:
       | Looks like it uses that crappy "S30+" operating system. It would
       | be so much better with old S40, but I guess that isn't compatible
       | with cheapest bottom of the barrel SoC they are using now...
        
       | zbuf wrote:
       | I feel they keep missing the point here. New phones with old
       | specs that don't even have the positives of the phone they're
       | paying homage to.
       | 
       | Bring me an 8310 with 4G, WiFi hotspot and a little e-ink
       | display. That's it. Then we're talking.
       | 
       | An opportunity to build a phone that isn't an intrusion on my
       | life, and I can supplement with a tablet/smartphone when I need
       | it.
        
         | WalterGR wrote:
         | It seems like you're not in the target market for this phone
         | then?
        
         | busymom0 wrote:
         | Agreed. I would have bought it if it didn't have a camera and
         | allowed me to put mp3 files and play them like a music player.
         | I basically need a device which doesn't do anything other than
         | calling and playing mp3 music.
         | 
         | Also mr sure why they used old 2G when it's being gotten rid of
         | in many places.
        
           | zbuf wrote:
           | I suppose it's that everyone has their own "just one more
           | thing" (in your case MP3 playback).
           | 
           | The best way to not go down that rabbit hole is for the
           | device to be a connectivity hub -- a functional device, not
           | an entertaining one.
           | 
           | 2G also gives regional differences, which is what already
           | renders my 8310 unusable abroad.
        
       | GekkePrutser wrote:
       | The resemblance isn't as big as the previous remakes IMO.
       | Especially because they didn't bother to make a metallic
       | grey/silver or grey/gold colour option like the original! Edit:
       | Ok the black one comes kinda close to the original 'dark' model
       | but even the black/grey was metallic on the orginal.
       | 
       | It's kinda funny that it has only dualband GSM, making it pretty
       | useless in most countries now that 2G is being decommissioned.
       | For comparison, the original 6310 was tri-band! So the original
       | was actually better, after exactly 20 years no less. Even some of
       | the other specs are literally the same! 16MB RAM, 8MB storage.
       | Yes, MB. In 2021. Really.
       | 
       | And 0.3mpx.. That's 640x480. It's the same as my Kodak digital
       | camera from 1999. Lol. They're really going for retro this time.
       | I thought the idea was to have the same design with more modern
       | specs. Not to have 20 year old specs except with a colour screen
       | and a "camera".
       | 
       | Even with those 0.3mpx you can take about 10 photos before the
       | 8MB storage is full. Wow. Like, how much does 8 _GB_ flash cost
       | these days? Cents??
       | 
       | I really don't understand what market they are aiming this thing
       | at. The "I just make calls and text" crowd won't have a use for a
       | camera, even a crap one. They'd often not want a camera at all
       | (In some cases those are not permitted at work!). The rich retro
       | crowd can't use a 2G phone in most countries. Customers in poor
       | countries won't care if it's retro because if this is all they
       | can afford now, they certainly didn't own a 6310 20 years ago,
       | that was pretty much a 'flagship' phone in those days.
       | 
       | I really wonder whether it was even worth the trouble of
       | designing it.
        
       | cf100clunk wrote:
       | Every new product like this goes through consumer focus group
       | testing, after which the likelihood of each feature helping to
       | achieve a net profit for the entire device is weighed for
       | inclusion. Achieving a good balance is tough, but in the end it
       | is all about whether an expectation of profit is strong enough to
       | put it out there. In this case, Nokia-HMD would have selected
       | options that may not make sense to some HN-type readers. Would I
       | buy one if I was looking for only a feature phone? I'd have to
       | see a tree-list of all menu items to go along with a seriously
       | informative set of specifications. Some competitors to this new
       | 6310 run KaiOS, often implemented with teeny hardware controls
       | and "too much" rather than "just enough" stuff.
        
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