[HN Gopher] Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying t...
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       Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell
       submarine secrets
        
       Author : BitAstronaut
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2021-10-10 20:05 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.cbsnews.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.cbsnews.com)
        
       | callesgg wrote:
       | Sad stuff.
       | 
       | Personally I can't imagine that anyone would want information on
       | nuclear reactors. What would one use that stuff for. It's not the
       | 50's, how nuclear reactors work is well known. The limiting
       | factors for building them are probably more about economics and
       | finding manpower and ore not informational.
        
         | laverya wrote:
         | Building a basic (large, loud, inefficient, expensive, unsafe)
         | reactor is "easy", by the standards of nuclear shit. Building
         | one that's suitable for use in a submarine is decidedly less
         | so.
         | 
         | How often do you need to refuel the reactor? That's
         | inconvenient on land, but in a submarine you need to cut
         | through the pressure hull to access anything and "inconvenient"
         | doesn't even begin to describe it. Modern American reactors are
         | designed to run for 20+ years without refueling for exactly
         | that reason.
         | 
         | How much do you need to run the coolant pumps and how loud are
         | they? A loud sub is a dead sub. If your reactor can run on
         | convection at low power, that's wonderful.
         | 
         | How power dense is the reactor? You need to fit this in a
         | relatively narrow tube, after all! And higher density means
         | higher speed.
         | 
         | How safe is it? How easy is it to cause a meltdown? That
         | directs staffing requirements, and subs don't have staff to
         | spare. A reactor shutting down at the wrong moment can very
         | easily cause the sub to be lost, even out of combat. See the
         | USS Thresher for a demonstration.
         | 
         | And finally, how much maintenance does it need? What portion of
         | this tractor's life needs to be spent tied up alongside a pier
         | having work done, or even worse spent in drydock? The higher
         | the proportion, the more subs you need in order to maintain a
         | given number on station.
         | 
         | So yes, there's PLENTY of things that aren't in a textbook
         | reactor design. And the largest current buyer of nuclear
         | reactors is the US Navy. Number two is the People's Liberation
         | Army Navy.
        
         | 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
         | Not a nuke tech but knowing output/efficiency of the powerplant
         | could tell you max speed of these subs which is probably highly
         | classified
        
       | noughtme wrote:
       | https://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-engineer-and-wife-charged-...
        
       | retox wrote:
       | Any thoughts on why the court paperwork only refer to the
       | supposed foreign government as being 'COUNTRY1'?
       | 
       | https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1440946/downl...
        
       | Stevvo wrote:
       | I get a 404 when clicking the link, to get to the article I have
       | to truncate 'via@Cbs Politics' from the URL.
        
       | movomito wrote:
       | $10,000? Really? It always shocks me how cheap people are. You
       | would think that if any actual adversary wanted information they
       | believed would be helpful in replicating or attacking a nuclear
       | submarine, the price tag they would be willing to pay would be
       | much higher. The guy and his wife are both idiots and they are
       | undoubtedly facing severe consequences. Let's all hope they never
       | had the opportunity to have children.
        
         | spzb wrote:
         | BBC version of the story says $100,000. Not sure which is right
         | but $100k sounds more plausible.
         | 
         | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58863678
        
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