[HN Gopher] It's weird that most of "Hacker" news is dominated b...
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       It's weird that most of "Hacker" news is dominated by business news
        
       I know that "tech" is all about startups and business success, but
       I'd like to see conversations about software, hardware, computer
       science, and hacker culture resurge and dominate here.  Of course
       HN is run by YC so there will always be the mod posts about
       startups and jobs, but it seems the community here sometimes tilts
       more towards business than technology.  Just a personal thought,
       would like to hear if others also have a similar perception.
        
       Author : greendude29
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2021-10-09 18:57 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
       | GaryTang wrote:
       | I'd say the opposite is true. Additionally, it is much MUCH
       | easier to find tech communities to have a discussion as compared
       | to business-oriented communities.
        
       | mindcrime wrote:
       | Funny, I'd say there's less, no, a LOT less, startup / business
       | oriented discussion here than in the past. To me, the big thing
       | that has emerged over the past few years has been a lot more
       | "stuff" that can loosely be described as "politics / culture /
       | public policy / society" or whatever. And if I could wave a magic
       | wand and change anything, I'd ban that stuff. Because I agree,
       | 
       | " _I 'd like to see conversations about software, hardware,
       | computer science, and hacker culture resurge and dominate here_"
       | 
       | That said, there is still a lot of that stuff. But the proportion
       | of various topics have definitely shifted over the years.
        
         | rachelbythebay wrote:
         | Yes please. People trying to discuss those topics on here makes
         | me come back less. It's probably the worst part of the site for
         | me overall.
        
         | Traster wrote:
         | I actually think this is a problem hackers have in general.
         | It's the Zuckerberg problem. You build something cool, you want
         | to talk about all the tricks you did to scale to N billion
         | users and all anyone can talk about is that genocide you
         | caused. You just built the tech, right? It's all about the
         | Tech. Except it's not about the tech when you're actually
         | having an effect on people's lives, and we should be more
         | willing to openly talk about that. Is it easier to pretend that
         | stuff doesn't exist? Sure. But it does exist, and we do need to
         | actually discuss what happens in the real world due to the
         | technology we work on.
        
         | Thorentis wrote:
         | These types of articles are actually what kept me here. The
         | unique blend of comp sci, and socio-political-economic-whatever
         | discussions is fantastic.
        
       | detaro wrote:
       | go to /new and upvote the stuff you want to see more of.
       | Surprisingly few people seem to do so, and early voting has quite
       | an effect.
        
         | krapp wrote:
         | Also under lists in the bottom bar, the second chance pool[0]
         | and invited reposts list[1].
         | 
         | Also, obviously, it's better to post more of the kind of
         | content you want to see, rather than complain about the content
         | you don't like.
         | 
         | Also, remember that leaving a comment (even a thoughtful one)
         | without also leaving an upvote acts as an implicit downvote and
         | will eventually trigger the flamewar detector in a thread. It's
         | entirely possible a lot of technical threads get sunk because
         | they simply generate technical conversation but not enough
         | kudos.
         | 
         | [0]https://news.ycombinator.com/pool
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         | [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/invited
        
         | FridayoLeary wrote:
         | The first half-hour is crucial. The continued success of your
         | post is generally defined by reaching (and staying on) the
         | front page.
        
       | jaytaylor wrote:
       | Try lobste.rs ( https://lobste.rs ) if you want "real" hacker
       | news.
       | 
       | They punish non-technical submissions.
        
         | fersarr wrote:
         | Looks cool! hmm would you invite me? :)
        
       | randycupertino wrote:
       | I post articles and deep-reads that I personally find interesting
       | from all ranges of topics. I like hackernews because of the
       | discussions and the comments.
       | 
       | Personally, I think the diversity of threads here is an asset.
       | There was a front-page thread here on Ham Radio yesterday which I
       | know nothing about but reading through the comments was
       | fascinating!
       | 
       | Agree that sorting by /new and upvoting the content you like is
       | hugely helpful.
        
       | darthvoldemort wrote:
       | HN is HN. It ebbs and flows like the tide. I love HN for what it
       | is, a news feed of interesting articles, with a bias towards
       | technology but not always. I've been introduced to so many things
       | because of the wide range of articles that are fascinating to
       | like-minded people.
       | 
       | > I'd like to see conversations about software, hardware,
       | computer science, and hacker culture resurge and dominate here.
       | 
       | Feel free to upvote the articles that you enjoy. But forcing HN
       | to only be about the above would probably lead to its demise.
        
       | MerelyMortal wrote:
       | Before my time, but HN was originally called "Startup News" which
       | is more-or-less business.
        
       | ksec wrote:
       | This is strange, are we even reading the same front page? ( I am
       | pretty sure HN dont have personalised front page )
       | 
       | I just ran through the first 100 Front page times and there are
       | barely any business related news.
       | 
       | I also dont see how the community here sometimes tilts more
       | towards business than technology. Other than some rare news on
       | another Unicorn, Public Listing, earning from FAANG. There has
       | rarely been any business news on HN at all.
       | 
       | There are some economics news ( if you count them as business
       | news ), but are again in the minorities.
       | 
       | YC backed start up Jobs are only shown may be once per day. They
       | are more like ads on HN. Who is hiring is also only a monthly
       | posting.
       | 
       | I am actually in flavour of more business news, but I also think
       | the current balance seems to be fine.
        
       | okdjnfweonfe wrote:
       | its "hacker" as in "hacker is a cool word"
        
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       | smitty1e wrote:
       | What intrigues me is that the "Hackers", who care about state,
       | programs, and process, haven't turned attention to the State, and
       | set about un-jacking its programs and streamlining its process.
       | 
       | Why haven't we got a robust git server with anonymous read-only
       | access for everyone who pays taxes that holds all (unclassified)
       | legislation/regulation affecting society?
       | 
       | Commits would be possible for elected officials/appointees only.
       | 
       | Similarly transparent treatment for the tax code.
       | 
       | Come on, Hackers: let's beat the entropy out of (or at least
       | minimize it) in the _res_ _publica_.
        
       | yellow_lead wrote:
       | I think people want to browse HN and not have to put much mental
       | effort in, so more "news" articles are upvoted, commented on,
       | etc.
        
         | krapp wrote:
         | Most people here don't read the articles, so there isn't much
         | mental effort being put in either way.
        
       | newbamboo wrote:
       | Programmers aren't interested in the same programming related
       | topics because everyone is too specialized now. The topics I'd be
       | interested in would be boring to someone else, etc. aside from
       | stuff about elixir which we all geek out on. So general tech
       | topics like dunking on Facebook/apple/surveillance tech and
       | complaining about leetcode job interview headaches get much
       | traction.
        
       | tdeck wrote:
       | Had the same thought when Rent the Runway's IPO was on the front
       | page. They're not even a tech company.
        
       | kulshan wrote:
       | I can't say I agree...look at the top 60 links currently. How
       | many would you say are "business news"?
        
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