[HN Gopher] Microsoft Introduces EdgelessDB: A Database Designed...
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       Microsoft Introduces EdgelessDB: A Database Designed for
       Confidential Computing
        
       Author : jabo
       Score  : 53 points
       Date   : 2021-10-09 18:16 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | krilovsky wrote:
       | Note: while it is based on MariaDB, it replaces InnoDB (the
       | MariaDB/MySQL storage engine) with MyRocks (which is based on
       | RocksDB), and as a consequence it is missing some features (such
       | as foreign keys[1]) that prevent it from being usable in many
       | applications.
       | 
       | [1] https://github.com/facebook/mysql-5.6/wiki/MyRocks-
       | limitatio...
        
       | otterley wrote:
       | I wonder how practical this is in reality. Production databases
       | need Day 2 operations and capabilities like backups, replication,
       | etc. Enclaves aren't connected to the network, so you can't
       | practically back them up, nor can you replicate them for HA or DR
       | purposes.
        
       | tester756 wrote:
       | this is genuine question
       | 
       | but why lately everything is Edge?
       | 
       | Edge Computing, Edge Devices, Edge Infrastructure, Edge Browser,
       | Edge yada yada.
        
         | imwillofficial wrote:
         | Because we're seeing the tock, to the Cloud's tick. Many
         | aspects of compute are moving out of the data center and closer
         | to the end user.
        
         | iamstupidsimple wrote:
         | The natural cycle between centralisation and decentralisation.
        
       | melony wrote:
       | _> Enclaves can protect against threats like malware or rootkits
       | and even rogue administrators and physical intruders._
       | 
       | What will they do when the government comes knocking with a
       | subpoena?
        
         | hulitu wrote:
         | In Rome (US) do like the romans (Google). They just give them
         | Bing to search telemetry data.
        
         | otterley wrote:
         | Run "SELECT * FROM table" on the client side and give the
         | results to them.
        
         | DSingularity wrote:
         | Trace them enclaves with some side-channels. These things are
         | not as secure as people think.
        
       | pytlicek wrote:
       | Not bad. Runtime protection of the data is really good/useful.
       | Lets see where this project will go :)
        
       | BiteCode_dev wrote:
       | Ouch, the guys at edgedb are going to be sad about the name
       | competition from microsoft.
        
         | babaganoosh89 wrote:
         | If the reverse happened, no doubt Microsoft would be sending
         | cease and desists to edgedb.
        
       | zimmerfrei wrote:
       | The title is a bit misleading: EdgelessDB was not developed by
       | Microsoft but by a German startup (Edgeless Systems,
       | https://www.edgeless.systems/ and
       | https://github.com/edgelesssys/edgelessdb).
       | 
       | The announcement is about its availability on the Azure
       | Marketplace.
        
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       | uluyol wrote:
       | That performance is really impressive. I'm no expert in this
       | space, but I was expecting somewhere around 30% the throughput of
       | a regular DB. They are way higher than that.
        
       | babelfish wrote:
       | Why are they trying to compare the required manifest to
       | blockchain? Seems like an unnecessary comparison for SEO
        
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