[HN Gopher] Nearly 40% of adults from 25-54 are unpartnered [Pew...
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       Nearly 40% of adults from 25-54 are unpartnered [Pew Research]
        
       Author : randycupertino
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2021-10-06 21:29 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | nodejs_rulez_1 wrote:
       | _> In a 2017 Pew Research Center survey, 71% of U.S. adults said
       | being able to support a family financially is very important for
       | a man to be a good spouse or partner._
       | 
       | Sad to see this harmful stereotype still being perpetuated. Men
       | need to be empowered to be stay-at-home spouses. Being a dad is a
       | fulltime job.
        
         | toomuchtodo wrote:
         | I've long given up on this idea that it's perpetuated. If
         | people want something, that's what they want, no different than
         | having a race or body type preference in a partner. What's the
         | alternative, to tell people the relationship attributes they
         | want is wrong? Can't squeeze the human out of the person.
         | 
         | For example: Educated women won't date down, while men will
         | [1]. Should we tell them that's wrong? I don't think that's
         | reasonable nor feasible.
         | 
         | [1]
         | https://www.google.com/search?q=educated+women+dont+date+dow...
         | (quick glance through first two pages of results)
        
       | xqcgrek2 wrote:
       | Re: the rise of OnlyFans
        
       | randycupertino wrote:
       | There is a lot to look here, but the main take away is that this
       | unpartnered adults have been increasing significantly over the
       | last 30 years. Men are generally more likely to be unpartnered
       | than women. Also, there are significant ethnic differences.
       | 
       | "While the unpartnered population includes some adults who were
       | previously married (those who are separated, divorced or
       | widowed), all of the growth in the unpartnered population since
       | 1990 has come from a rise in the number who have never been
       | married.
       | 
       | This trend has broad societal implications, as does the growing
       | gap in well-being between partnered and unpartnered adults.
       | Looking across a range of measures of economic and social status,
       | unpartnered adults generally have different - often worse -
       | outcomes than those who are married or cohabiting. This pattern
       | is apparent among both men and women.
       | 
       | Unpartnered adults have lower earnings, on average, than
       | partnered adults and are less likely to be employed or
       | economically independent. They also have lower educational
       | attainment and are more likely to live with their parents. Other
       | research suggests that married and cohabiting adults fare better
       | than those who are unpartnered when it comes to some health
       | outcomes."
       | 
       | I don't think our society is setup for singles, particularly
       | singles as the majority. And we are getting pretty close. These
       | findings are really interesting.
        
         | rsj_hn wrote:
         | The 3% difference in partner/unpartner rates of men vs women is
         | entirely accounted for the 4% difference in being
         | institutionalized (e.g. in prison). Really these types of
         | studies should control for this.
         | 
         | > I don't think our society is setup for singles, particularly
         | singles as the majority. And we are getting pretty close. These
         | findings are really interesting.
         | 
         | Social reproduction is the primary requirement to have a
         | society in the first place, and adult singles don't participate
         | in social reproduction at anywhere near the rates of married
         | couples.
         | 
         | This is something that the society has to discourage in order
         | to remain viable. Historically those who can't or won't
         | participate in that process have taken on service roles that
         | promote social reproduction, for example with nuns teaching
         | schools, or priests reproducing the faith. People like this,
         | together with widows, are really the only singles that are
         | accepted by societies that survive across time, the others
         | being subject to some social disapproval.
         | 
         | If you lose that drive to survive and perpetuate your society,
         | which all western liberal societies have, then it's just a just
         | a question of making people more comfortable as the entire
         | society shuffles off the game board. We are truly a Ship of
         | Fools.
        
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