[HN Gopher] China PCR test orders soared before first reported C...
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China PCR test orders soared before first reported Covid case
Author : johntfella
Score : 27 points
Date : 2021-10-04 20:17 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (asia.nikkei.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (asia.nikkei.com)
| csense wrote:
| The article says this was "according to a report from researchers
| in the U.S., the U.K. and Australia." I wish it included a link.
| kaezon wrote:
| I don't understand why archiving and linking source material
| isn't the norm.
| dane-pgp wrote:
| I'm not sure if this discovery will ever amount to a "beyond
| reasonable doubt" standard of proof of a cover-up, especially in
| an internationally accepted judicial setting, but I do wonder if,
| in general, there needs to be a legal principle that hiding
| evidence of something has to be punished as harshly as the worst
| plausible crime that the evidence could be hiding.
|
| Such a principle would, admittedly, lead to many defendants being
| punished for crimes they didn't actually commit (i.e. they were
| only covering up lesser crimes), but without such a principle, a
| guilty person will always face a rational choice of covering up
| their crime and risking only an additional "destruction of
| evidence" charge (for example), as opposed to being caught for
| the actual crime and incurring the (presumably harsher)
| punishment for that.
|
| For such a principle to pass the smell test, though, it should
| first and foremost apply to government record laws, covering
| everything from politician's official emails to police body-cam
| footage. A society which elects politicians willing to be held to
| that standard can be assumed to be mature enough to have this
| principle applied to other criminals.
| redis_mlc wrote:
| > beyond reasonable doubt
|
| It's already far, far beyond a reasonable doubt in any US court
| that one of the Wuhan labs was the source of corona, and that
| the CCP covered it up at every step.
|
| What's ugly is that Fauci funded it to a significant extent and
| has been allowed to cover it up by two administrations.
|
| (For those who don't know, Fauci gave 65 grants to WIV,
| including GoF research, plus grants to 26 other labs in China.
| Yet he lied to Congress multiple times about GoF, and never
| mentioned 90+ grants. In addition, WIV asked for a grant to
| release corona into a bat population. The grant was denied, but
| we don't know if the project stopped.)
|
| One of the weirdest things is that NIH has PR staff, yet Fauci
| is on TV daily. Just like a crooked accountant who never goes
| on vacation so he can keep juggling the balls in the air.
|
| If you recall, the CCP said, "It came from the US." I think
| they meant Fauci asked them to do GoF research and funded it.
| CCP statements fall into 2 groups: fairly factual, and
| hyperbole. It's fairly easy to separate the two, and I think in
| this case it was a fairly factual statement. The reason it was
| not more detailed is because their main audience is internal,
| and they did not want to share blame for the corona release.
| xyzzy21 wrote:
| That's exactly the thing - individually there's deniability.
| But taken in toto, the circumstantial evidence of lab leak is
| stunning and obvious. It's even quickly entering "it was
| designed as a bioweapon but 'probably' leaked by accident but
| maybe not" territory. This news, for example, raises that
| question strongly.
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