[HN Gopher] Who else sees their deleted messages on WhatsApp tha...
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Who else sees their deleted messages on WhatsApp that shouldn't be
there?
Author : pytlicek
Score : 37 points
Date : 2021-10-04 17:16 UTC (5 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (twitter.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (twitter.com)
| WillSmithPro wrote:
| Oh shit. This is BIG!!!
| peakaboo wrote:
| I guess but who is surprised? We know the American tech mafia
| is not following any rules.
| peakaboo wrote:
| I guess but who is surprised? We know the American tech mafia
| is not following any rules.
|
| They just tell the lusers some lies and carries on with
| collecting their data.
| pytlicek wrote:
| https://twitter.com/Pytlicek/status/1445085177475223559
| https://twitter.com/Pytlicek/status/1445094265739173905
| proc0 wrote:
| Not for a second would I have believed they _actually_ delete
| information. (which is why I 've avoided them). Even this site
| can leak at any time.
|
| This whole industry is meant to harvest user information. Richard
| Stallman tried to warn us. Jaron Lanier called it "siren
| servers", because they hypnotized people into using their
| services. I hope this encourages people to question this and and
| to look for alternatives.
| saurik wrote:
| FWIW, WhatsApp doesn't know what is in your messages...
| including your messages that are telling other users to delete
| messages. They are just an event queue. Personally I don't
| think they should have implemented "delete" at all as it
| implies that other users are going to play along with your
| deletion requests, which is not only totally out of their
| control but morally shouldn't even be a thing: once you send me
| a message it is MY data, not your data, and you don't get to
| delete it unless I agree. It maybe seems awkward that a re-
| delivery of a deleted message is causing it to resurrect
| temporarily until the delete event is also re-delivered, but if
| they "actually delete it"--which I imagine you want--then they
| might also forget any unique identifier stored with the
| message, which likely makes it hard to know that this message
| was both already received and deleted in the past.
| throwawaysea wrote:
| Wow this is a massive breach of trust if true. I am assuming it
| is some unintentional side effect or bug rather than intentional
| deception, but still, for a privacy oriented service this is bad.
| pytlicek wrote:
| Look here:
| https://twitter.com/Pytlicek/status/1445085177475223559 I made
| a few screenshots. This is really really weird :/
| throwawaysea wrote:
| I recommend sharing this on some of the other prominent
| threads about the Facebook outage, here and on Reddit, so
| that it gets attention and a response.
| sureglymop wrote:
| Don't you think this is some sort of caching or something in your
| WhatsApp client? Since WhatsApp is unreachable, how would your
| client "retrieve" your deleted messages?
| pytlicek wrote:
| Who knows. I use PiHole where all DNS records are cached (not
| chats, nor messages). Maybe this is the reason why it happens
| to me. And regards Twitter (obviously), I'm not the only one
| who is facing this weird behaviour.
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