[HN Gopher] Hyper - Sell Memberships to Discord and Telegram
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Hyper - Sell Memberships to Discord and Telegram
Author : melvinmt
Score : 63 points
Date : 2021-10-04 15:20 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| 58x14 wrote:
| Seems like Patreon is their most successful comparable model.
| Patreon offers tiers of 7.9%, 10.9%, and 14.9%, while Hyper
| offers 5% pay-as-you-go, or a flat $299 monthly.
|
| So if you're, let's say, a Twitch streamer with 5,000 subs but
| 20,000 Discord members, I could see a strong use case for Hyper,
| because there's such minimal friction for both customers (Patreon
| rewards are often disconnected from other community channels like
| Discord) and sellers (subscriptions can be configured to change
| roles, allowing access to permissions, channels, etc).
|
| Hyper: $300mo flat / 2000 users @ $5mo = 3% Patreon (lowest
| tier): 2000 users @ $5mo * .079 = $790
|
| Hyper: $300mo flat / 5000 users @ $5mo = 1.2% Patreon (lowest
| tier): 5000 users @ $5mo * .079 = $1975
|
| Looks viable to me!
| pram wrote:
| Patreon and Twitch already handle Discord roles though.
| cobertos wrote:
| Discord has some really useful but non-search-indexable info in
| it. Putting communities behind a paywall would make it way
| tougher to openly access info.
|
| Probably make some good money though...
| kown7 wrote:
| Wouldn't tiered matrix spaces be a good solution for this
| problem?
| twostorytower wrote:
| I think this is great, I just really hope you will be okay when
| Discord builds this internally.
| rileymichael wrote:
| They already have: https://github.com/discord/discord-api-
| docs/pull/3846
| slightwinder wrote:
| Is there any real business going over discord & telegram? I've
| only seen scammer, illegal porn and conspiracy believers sell
| through those channels. Legit Influencers are usually using
| patreon, onlyfans or similar platforms.
| eswat wrote:
| It depends on your niche. I'm a part of some optionally-paid
| Discord servers where I've never encountered a bot DM. But
| these aren't in niches where botting is rampant, like crypto
| and gaming.
| zachaden wrote:
| It seems like it; I have stumbled upon traders that are willing
| to help each other. Some traders sell membership for the
| members to receive "trade signals." They won't bother making a
| business model like this if you can monetize on discord.
| schnevets wrote:
| I Patreon a podcast that has a private Discord for subscribers,
| and it is a great community. It seems like folks who like this
| particular podcast have a lot of things in common, and the
| paywall prevents toxic behavior.
|
| I also know a professional* dungeon master who uses Discord to
| keep customers organized. I'm sure he could accomplish this
| coordination with e-mail and a spreadsheet, but Discord seems
| to cultivate community as a side-benefit.
|
| *No, this isn't his fulltime job, but it seems to justify the
| amount of time/brainpower spent on Game Design/RP Writing
| efforts. And, yet again, charging folks a bit of money for
| membership puts them on their best behavior.
| MonaroVXR wrote:
| Gamemakerstoolkit is a good one. I hate to pay, to be in a
| Discord server.
| dreyfan wrote:
| Sure there's loads of ICO groups, NFT groups, cook groups for
| shoe/ps5 drops, meme stock option traders, etc. Oh wait you
| already covered "scammer".
| nftartfund wrote:
| Haha that's so true, the NFT ecosystems roots are with
| discord. It's great for communicating with your core audience
| geniium wrote:
| Hyper is a terminal, please. Don't mix things up
| samb1729 wrote:
| Could you reword this comment please? I have no idea what you
| are trying to express.
| mentalpiracy wrote:
| The person you are replying to is referring to a terminal
| client, also named Hyper[0].
|
| 0. https://hyper.is/
| hunterb123 wrote:
| I assume this is a play on hyperlink. Hyper the terminal is not
| the only software named that.
| Lordarminius wrote:
| 5% per transaction or $299/mo don't seem like equal options to
| me.
|
| What am I missing ?
| botvinick wrote:
| We're in an awkward spot with our pricing right now for sure -
| we only had the 5% option for the longest time but introduced
| the flat rate recently for a number of reasons. In the next few
| weeks we'll be fully switching over to a freemium model with
| Shopify-like tiers.
|
| Needless to say if you're making $6k+ per month it's worth
| paying for Scale, but many users also pay for the advanced
| features even at $1-2k of MRR.
| n3ither wrote:
| This is awful. If drm-ed pay to access sites weren't bad enough.
| Now we have a way to late stage capital our way into setting
| literal invite links.
| nemothekid wrote:
| ad-surveillance supported free websites is ok, but paid
| membership access is late stage capitalism?
| samb1729 wrote:
| Care to elaborate? Are you also against the notion of paying to
| enter a concert or sporting event? If no, could you expand on
| what you believe the difference between these two things to be?
| casi18 wrote:
| Paywalls are great at stopping spammers. And membership for
| groups is hardly an internet only thing.
|
| Haven't tried Hyper, but the nft gated discords I use are much
| nicer places to hang out and chat and make things together. In
| the past year ive gone from using discord maybe once a month to
| it being my main internet social-space. Even better is that
| most of the memberships feed back into the group accounts.
|
| I'm curious why you have such a strong reaction against this
| though, I much prefer it to adverts.
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