[HN Gopher] Imaginary Personal Manager
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       Imaginary Personal Manager
        
       Author : uchenic
       Score  : 61 points
       Date   : 2021-10-04 13:14 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | zorr wrote:
       | This is the approach I'm also looking at. GTD systems are good at
       | storing and keeping track of times and due dates. But the
       | planning/execution step is missing besides basic "work on the
       | highest priority task for each project.
       | 
       | The next step could be a scheduler that takes the GTD state as
       | input along with your calendar and builds an execution plan.
        
       | catillac wrote:
       | This seems useful, but they use terms like GTD and never define
       | them, and with the grammar, it's slightly hard to follow.
        
         | TeMPOraL wrote:
         | In this case it could perhaps be excused, given that GTD in
         | productivity/PM/business space is as recognizable an acronym as
         | API is in software development.
        
         | wishinghand wrote:
         | It always baffles me how bloggers don't write it out first and
         | then give a parenthetical acronym/abbreviation: Getting Things
         | Done (GTD).
        
         | Semaphor wrote:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getting_Things_Done
         | 
         | I guess they assumed that anyone interested in todo-apps would
         | have already encountered GTD before.
         | 
         | I never managed to get GTD done, but the book was still an
         | interesting and enjoyable read when I read it back in
         | university.
        
       | yitchelle wrote:
       | I have a personal kanban board. My pain is deciding how many
       | tasks I can work on for a given day.
       | 
       | Somedays I have 5 tasks and I finish them with a few hours left
       | over. Other days, I only managed finished 2 tasks and have to
       | push the left over tasks back into the pool.
       | 
       | Anyone know if there some heuristics I can apply so that I
       | continuously adjust my task loading on a day to day basis?
        
         | sokoloff wrote:
         | What's the problem on the days where you finish 5 tasks and
         | have hours and energy leftover with using that information to
         | "pull more work"?
         | 
         | Kanban is designed to minimize WIP. When your WIP is down to
         | zero, it's perfectly reasonable to pull more work.
        
         | choeger wrote:
         | I don't think there's a valuable heuristic. I would propose to
         | go low (2 tasks in your case) and if you feel extremely
         | motivated do some tasks from the next day (and consequently
         | finish your week early if possible). Leftover time can be
         | filled with hobbies and household to make you a better human
         | being.
        
         | cratermoon wrote:
         | What sort of tasks are we talking about? If they are
         | cognitively demanding tasks that require uninterrupted focus,
         | plan on getting no more than four hours worth done on an
         | average day. Some people may find it takes practice to get to
         | four hours, some may find that four hours is easy and six is
         | possible.
         | 
         | A single distraction can easily eat up 30 minutes from your
         | allotted time, even if the distraction itself only takes a few
         | minutes.
        
         | withinboredom wrote:
         | Have you tried velocity/capacity planning? It's not too
         | accurate on small scales, but should be pretty accurate for a
         | single person on the scale of a week or two.
        
         | gamerDude wrote:
         | If you wanted to start using the pomodoro technique, they have
         | some time based heuristics. Basically each pomodoro is 25
         | minutes of focused work.
         | 
         | After you start the habit, you estimate and track tasks in
         | number of pomodoro. And your goal is to do a certain number of
         | pomodoros in a day and then adjusting your tasks on if you
         | estimate it will take more or less pomodoros.
        
       | withinboredom wrote:
       | I use a simple text file. It has a list of tasks with a minus or
       | a pluses beside it. If I don't do a task, it gets moved to the
       | next day and a plus added to it. Eventually the pluses get
       | annoying and I just leave the task as never to to do.
       | 
       | It's worked out well, if no one ever asks me about the never done
       | task, then I succeeded in not wasting my time. Sometimes people
       | do pop in to ask about it, at which point I simply add a new
       | task, referencing the old one. I don't even worry about due
       | dates, I just pick things off the todo list, mostly at random.
       | Important things tend to get done early or on time.
        
       | Dyac wrote:
       | Good article. I do this using 2 tools on top of Gsuite.
       | 
       | https://reclaim.ai/ - I found this on HN a couple of months back.
       | It schedules tasks you add to your Google Tasks on your Google
       | calendar, fully automatically.
       | 
       | https://tasksboard.com/ allows you to have multiple Google tasks
       | lists displayed as a kanban board.
       | 
       | Drag your task into your reclaim.ai "todo" list and time gets
       | blocked out in your calendar automatically. et viola!
        
       | bryanrasmussen wrote:
       | Unfortunately I like the name too much to find it acceptable as a
       | mundane app.
        
       | 13415 wrote:
       | I'm a bit skeptical about Kanban boards because you cannot have
       | them with you all the time. That goes against the main idea of
       | GTD to reduce cognitive load as much as possible.
       | 
       | I used to use the " _Action Day Planner_ " together with a
       | notebook for more detailed project-related data, and this system
       | was very capable of organizing my work. I don't think electronic
       | devices and software are very helpful. You either don't have them
       | at hand all the time anywhere, or you end up fiddling with
       | software on mobile phones that distracts and makes you enter text
       | much less efficiently than writing on paper.
       | 
       | Anyway, I found with time that the GTD method is mostly suitable
       | for non-creative, boring management tasks. It's good for
       | delegating and managing under load. Or, as a friend of mine once
       | said: It's more of a " _you (pointing at employee) better get
       | things done!_ " method. I now only use a calendar and "
       | _Leuchtturm 1917_ " notebooks. Any other notebook will do, too,
       | as long as they have a ToC and numbered pages.
        
         | wpietri wrote:
         | Why can't you have a Kanban board with you?
         | 
         | I use KanbanFlow with both work and personal boards and it's
         | great. The mobile interface fine. For home/desk situations,
         | I'll use a spare monitor or a cheap tablet so it's more
         | present.
         | 
         | Nothing wrong with preferring a notebook, of course; it is
         | easier for some things, and I use to carry one religiously. But
         | since it's an extra physical object I have to haul around
         | everywhere and that requires a special tool to even use, I
         | don't miss it.
        
       | thedmstdmstdmst wrote:
       | Thanks for the post, I've been doing most of what you suggested
       | except for the auto adding of tasks to my schedule, that is a
       | great idea. Thanks.
        
         | uchenic wrote:
         | I have implemented automation for myself, but have a feeling
         | that it might be interesting for others.
        
       | kritiko wrote:
       | Oliver Burkeman's 4000 Weeks addresses a lot of this, and he
       | similarly ends up recommending personal kanban.
        
         | ruleryak wrote:
         | I'm a little over 2000 weeks old. Does that mean what I think
         | that means?
        
       | yardshop wrote:
       | Over the last several months I have been learning and using
       | ClickUp [1] and it provides several tools that can be used to
       | achieve what the article describes.
       | 
       | First they provide a very flexible hierarchy. You can create
       | multiple workspaces with multiple folders and lists of tasks
       | within them, or start with just one space with one list of tasks.
       | 
       | Next you can view a list vertically as a list, or horizontally as
       | a kanban-style board, or as a mind map, or a number of other
       | options.
       | 
       | Third, you can put tasks on a calendar to timebox and arrange the
       | flow of your work.
       | 
       | You can define a set of statuses to apply to the tasks in a
       | lists, and can copy these status arrangements between lists.
       | These define the flow of your work and the columns of your board.
       | 
       | Tasks can have subtasks, and can also contain check lists and
       | comments. Check lists can be converted into substasks.
       | Combinations of folders lists tasks and subtasks can be made into
       | templates to speed the setup of a new project.
       | 
       | There are a number of other features which help to capture info
       | and keep it in one place: Notepad is a quick place to jot
       | something down that can be converted to a task later; Docs is a
       | somewhat wiki-like place to write longer notes; then you can link
       | things to provide the necessary relationships and associations.
       | There are also numerous integrations with other apps to import or
       | export data.
       | 
       | The phone app is pretty good too, including the calendar and
       | kanban views.
       | 
       | Not a paid endorsement, just very enthusiastic about the
       | capabilities of this system and how it can be adapted to suit
       | many different working styles. Thought other productivity-heads
       | might enjoy it! =)
       | 
       | 1: https://www.clickup.com
        
         | twojacobtwo wrote:
         | It's great to see someone on HN endorse Clickup based on
         | personal experience. I selected Clickup over a number of other
         | options for my workplace's project management system only a few
         | months ago, in large part due to the flexibility and
         | customization you alluded to (and cost vs. features), and I
         | have been hoping that it was a good choice for others and not
         | just according to my own biases. If you haven't had a chance,
         | take a look at their automations - they might give you some
         | ideas for automating your personal workflows a bit.
         | 
         | Bonus tip: If you use one of their docs as a meeting
         | agenda/minutes, you can select a portion of text and make it
         | into a task with a right click. I just discovered this, but it
         | seems to be a great way to create follow-ups and assign people
         | to action items.
        
       | kirubakaran wrote:
       | I use my https://crushentropy.com/ as the day planner and it has
       | definitely made me more productive. It's like markdown for
       | planning your day.
        
         | tra3 wrote:
         | That's really cool. I just added my appointments and tasks for
         | the day. Visualizing everything I'm definitely not going to be
         | as productive as I was hopping to be =/
        
       | cygned wrote:
       | I use https://teuxdeux.com for weekly planning.
       | 
       | Basically for any planning. That's the only todo list that works
       | for me.
        
       | jedahan wrote:
       | I made a really dumb block-based, client-side-only tool for
       | trying to play around with weekly scheduling.
       | 
       | https://jedahan.com/saltpeanuts/
       | 
       | The data gets serialized (but still human readable) in the url
       | fragment, so its shareable, but server never sees it. You can
       | also just download and run, or see the code for "jedahan's first
       | and only Vue app" on
       | https://github.com/jedahan/saltpeanuts#readme , which is the only
       | user guide.
       | 
       | It has not helped my wrangle my time or focus at all.
        
       | corndoge wrote:
       | If you haven't tried Notion, you should. Especially the portion
       | of this describing mapping tasks onto a calendar is implemented
       | perfectly in notion databases.
       | 
       | For example, processing steps like this:
       | 
       | > The calendar is filled two times a week.
       | 
       | Unnecessary in Notion as you can view a kanban with dated items
       | as a calendar.
       | 
       | https://www.notion.so/Intro-to-databases-fd8cd2d212f74c50954...
       | 
       | Edit: why am I being downvoted for suggesting a tool I like
        
         | jvanderbot wrote:
         | I started putting 1 hour or half-hour blocks on my calendar for
         | every task. Game changer.
         | 
         | I can have all the lists in the world without knowing what to
         | do, when to do it, or how soon I'll be able to get to it. This
         | works for all that.
        
           | corndoge wrote:
           | Yeah, it's fantastic in Notion to be able to add a date
           | property to a task and have all your tasks magically show in
           | a calendar without needing to manually create calendar
           | events.
        
             | sodality2 wrote:
             | Anyone know an OSS alternative for this sort of time-
             | scheduling? I use Trilium for all my notes currently but
             | it's not great for time scheduling like Notion seems to
             | be... Wish I could make a PR and add that feature but my
             | Node skills are nonexistent.
        
             | jvanderbot wrote:
             | Perhaps another tool is required to add items to a list,
             | which then adds to my calendar. That does seem like a nice
             | automation, and a "list view" / "kanban view" would be a
             | plus.
             | 
             | But, I'm happy just blocking time in the same program work
             | comes in on (email). I am far enough out of the iterative
             | loop of development that most assignments are "soft" as in
             | emails or requests from the group or random people in the
             | organization who are in early stage product development and
             | haven't formed a core team yet with all the project
             | management tooling that comes with that.
        
           | pantulis wrote:
           | That sounds a lot like "time blocking" or "hyperscheduling".
           | I agree that this is a game changer --at least for me,
           | specially being conscious that, well, you only have 24 hours
           | in a day.
        
           | Swizec wrote:
           | I've started doing this and it's a game changer. Mostly in
           | the form of _" Wow I never realized how few things fit in 24
           | hours"_
           | 
           | Strangely it feels like I get less done now. But I'm also
           | less stressed.
        
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