[HN Gopher] Cloud Wars and Company Wars
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       Cloud Wars and Company Wars
        
       Author : ridruejo
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2021-10-03 11:23 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (future.a16z.com)
        
       | darwinwhy wrote:
       | Is this pod worth listening to? Kinda hard to decide based on the
       | transcript-lacking landing page.
        
         | ridruejo wrote:
         | I enjoyed it. It basically a conversation about the experience
         | of Dell taking his company private and then public again and
         | the underlying thesis for doing so (is the future public cloud?
         | Edge?). Flowed well and felt like being a fly on the wall with
         | them having coffee and talking about the industry
        
       | simonebrunozzi wrote:
       | I'd like to share some dated, but still relevant, annual
       | reflections on "cloud wars" that I wrote in 2016 [0] and 2017
       | [1]. Back then I was an exec at VMware, CTO of their cloud
       | division (vCloud Air), and previously a Tech Evangelist at AWS.
       | 
       | I re-read them now, after 4-5 years, to see how much I was right
       | and wrong about my predictions.
       | 
       | I hope you find these interesting.
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       | [0]: https://medium.com/simone-brunozzi/the-cloud-wars-
       | of-2016-3f...
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       | [1]: https://medium.com/simone-brunozzi/the-cloud-wars-
       | of-2017-ac...
        
       | webmaven wrote:
       | Is there a transcript somewhere?
        
       | m0zg wrote:
       | There weren't really any "cloud wars" until very recently
       | Cloudflare started murdering egress cash cows for the Big Three.
       | Antitrust authorities have probably been paid off by lobbyists to
       | not pay attention to this rather obvious price fixing.
        
       | 1cvmask wrote:
       | https://www.platformonomics.com/2019/07/the-cloud-is-not-fla...
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       | https://www.platformonomics.com/2020/12/2020-platformonomics...
        
       | greenail wrote:
       | I recall Lydia Leong's theory was that the number of big cloud
       | players would be driven by what the ecosystem could support. If
       | you are providing services on top of cloud technology you can't
       | really afford to support more than a hand full of APIs.
        
         | simonebrunozzi wrote:
         | Very humbly, I don't think she's as smart or knowledgeable as
         | most people think she is. I had two group conversations with
         | her, and in both cases I just failed to understand her
         | arguments. She was also wrong on both cases, in retrospect.
         | 
         | An example? vCloud Air can be credible only when it will have a
         | global presence. vCloud Air then proceeds to build/buy
         | locations in Japan, Germany and Australia. One year later,
         | vCloud Air is no more. Guess the global presence didn't matter
         | that much. The problem was the product, not the locations.
         | 
         | Sorry, but my opinion on analysts that never built a company or
         | never really practiced has never been particularly high. It
         | might just be my own personal bias.
        
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