[HN Gopher] Brain-cleaning sleeping cap gets US Army funding
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       Brain-cleaning sleeping cap gets US Army funding
        
       Author : sahin
       Score  : 70 points
       Date   : 2021-10-02 17:38 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | elric wrote:
       | Is there any evidence that neuromodulation can actually impact
       | the glymphatic system and stimulate the flow of fluids?
       | 
       | Do we know how the glymphatic system works in enough detail yet?
       | This sounds like a useful research tool full of interesting
       | sensors. But referring to it as "brain cleaning" strikes me as
       | premature.
        
         | Jensson wrote:
         | Isn't the point that they fund it because they think it might
         | be able to perform "brain cleaning"? If that is the intent then
         | the title that they fund a "brain cleaning" cap is accurate, it
         | might never work though.
        
       | ARandomerDude wrote:
       | Headlines from 2055:
       | 
       |  _Ransomware gang releases man from MyBrain sleeping cap after
       | family pays $10M_
       | 
       |  _CEO: users can opt-out of dream-based ads, monitoring -- but
       | face degraded platform experience_
       | 
       |  _Police use bulk collection of brain data for secretive
       | warrants_
        
         | ptr2voidStar wrote:
         | Why can't people see this happening? The ability for most of
         | humanity to be distracted by "shiny things" never ceases to
         | amaze me.
        
         | sneak wrote:
         | I would prefer this to the current situation where the sponsor
         | of the development is doing so in an effort to increase the
         | effectiveness of its staff to commit mass murder under adverse
         | conditions.
         | 
         | Pathological profit-based motivation is vastly preferable to
         | pathological death-based motivation.
        
           | Apocryphon wrote:
           | "That's why the military developed dream sharing - a training
           | program where soldiers could strangle, stab and shoot each
           | other, then wake up."
        
       | crooked-v wrote:
       | I have to wonder how much of this support is the military trying
       | to find a technological workaround so they can keep using
       | schedules that intentionally leave everyone sleep deprived all
       | the time, instead of just adjusting those schedules to let people
       | get enough sleep.
       | 
       | While the worst cases of that are generally in the Navy (for
       | example, entire ship crews running on 4 hours of a sleep a night
       | as standard practice, serving as a major factor in those lethal
       | collisions back in 2017), it's pretty common for Army grunts to
       | get six hours of sleep a night or less while on deployment.
        
       | foota wrote:
       | Imagine if we could largely eliminate sleep, it seems like
       | science fiction for now, but what if?
        
       | ex3xu wrote:
       | FDA approval for transcranial electric/magnetic stimulation has
       | been around since 2008 for major depression, 2013 for migraines,
       | and 2018 for OCD [0], so it wouldn't surprise me if they hold
       | some therapeutic value for sleep disorders as well.
       | 
       | I just hope these devices are particularly well-regulated for
       | sleep, however, because I imagine sending the wrong signal for
       | even a few nights' sleep could do some serious damage.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-
       | perm...
        
       | krylon wrote:
       | The title is somewhat misleading, I think. Nevertheless, this
       | sounds like very interesting research.
       | 
       | It is astonishing how much we have learned about the brain and
       | how it works, but there so much to learn I doubt we will ever run
       | out of questions to ask.
        
         | antegamisou wrote:
         | You sure you didn't mean to say
         | 
         | > It is astonishing how little we have learned about the brain
         | and how it works
         | 
         | ?
        
         | kiba wrote:
         | Is it?
         | 
         | With physics, we haven't uncovered anything new that would lead
         | to whole new technologies.
        
           | GeorgeTirebiter wrote:
           | Except... we cannot predict how future folks will be able to
           | use e.g. neutrinos to achieve some fantastic future tech. And
           | apart from the sheer desire to 'understand the world',
           | physics research is giving future technologists some
           | phenomena to (possibly) exploit.
        
             | drdeca wrote:
             | I'm skeptical that future technologies will have much use
             | for neutrinos specifically. Facts discovered via the study
             | of neutrinos, that seems quite plausible, but I doubt there
             | will ever be much use for neutrinos directly.
        
               | rsynnott wrote:
               | Well, if you want _really_ low latency comms with
               | somewhere approximately on the other side of the world,
               | all you need is a very big particle accelerator, and a
               | neutrino detector :) (or two of each, really).
               | 
               | I'm sure the high frequency trading people would love
               | it...
        
               | amelius wrote:
               | That would only speed it up by a factor of pi/2.
        
           | yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
           | What? Like half of all modern tech is built out of weird
           | physics. Photoelectric effect, liquid crystals, transistors,
           | most camera improvements, capacitive touch - all applications
           | of discoveries in physics.
        
         | Sosh101 wrote:
         | In what way is it misleading?
        
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