[HN Gopher] Clubhouse needs creators, but creators need cash
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Clubhouse needs creators, but creators need cash
Author : 0xedb
Score : 37 points
Date : 2021-10-02 12:02 UTC (10 hours ago)
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| sva_ wrote:
| I just thought about Clubhouse the other day. It's as if we have
| entered a time in which there are one-hit-wonders in social media
| apps, just like in pop music.
|
| I think turning their app into this shielded walled garden has
| been their demise from the beginning. I heard about the app, but
| it wasn't really enough to get me to download it. Might've been
| different if they had some decent content-first public interface
| that has some selection of stuff to offer, to get me more
| interested. I'm also not a fan of this ad pattern of making
| access to the app seem like an exclusive privilege by being
| invite-only, it feels like a worn-out trick.
| gaze wrote:
| Clubhouse has a truly degenerate culture. I used to panel on
| quantum computing discussions. Every quantum-related discussion
| now veers towards consciousness related claptrap. Now it's all
| vaccine denialist, crypto/nft scammers... etc. Credit to the guy
| who claimed that "using quantum mechanics to affect your life
| trajectory is a privilege." I think he might be sincere. Hard to
| tell with most of these people.
|
| It's honestly always had a degenerate culture, though. I remember
| a discussion I dropped in on about a startup for "bringing
| boutique liquor to space to heighten the luxury experience"
| Mobleysoft wrote:
| There was a time I wanted to join and see what they were all
| about, but I couldn't. By the time they let me in, I'd lost
| interest. Maybe don't turn away users next time.
| senthilnayagam wrote:
| I am based in India and joined clubhouse in january.
|
| I have created hundreds of hours of content on clubhouse, run
| multiple clubs each with thousands of members.
|
| I like the community. made many friends.
|
| we onboarded many top film celebrities on clubhouse for our
| events.
|
| applied twice for creator program not got selected. anything new
| we created in my clubs we had copycats replicating the ideas even
| room title.
|
| after reading article creator program does not seem successful .
|
| clubhouse app still lacks key features which can help creators. -
| have to use third party service for analytics, - have to use a
| second phone to record content as audience, if you are mod audio
| notification of people hand raising is distracting. - irig2 and
| additional cables and adapters and mixers if you want to create
| studio quality content.
|
| have reduced content creation by about 80% in last 2 months
|
| looking for some platform gives a better monetisation options for
| creators.
|
| now building a NFT platform for creators
| andreilys wrote:
| You should checkout Twitter spaces.
|
| With the BTC tipping functionality, I think it'll be a great
| place for monetizing creator content.
| geerlingguy wrote:
| One of these platforms needs to pull a YouTube and share
| their own revenues. They don't realize that they are nothing
| without good creators, and consistency requires compensation,
| eventually.
| ChuckMcM wrote:
| This and the doctor comment capture my impression of Clubhouse.
| It can't clamp down on bad actors because then its "user
| engagement" numbers would plummet, it can't get any sponsors to
| pay creators because it cannot show any reasonable revenue
| upside for the sponsors. It can't clamp down on copycats or
| pirates because then the amount of content on the site would
| drop precipitously.
|
| Typical chicken and egg problem and no path to bootstrap the
| first chicken.
| davidbarker wrote:
| Clubhouse has many problems, including English-speaking hallways
| being taken over by rooms full of disinformation (particularly
| around COVID). Many of the doctors who try to correct this have
| been chased off the app via harassment, and Clubhouse seem to
| have no interest in fixing the issues.[1]
|
| [1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/93ypm5/doctors-are-being-
| for...
|
| Disclaimer: I've been helping a group of doctors to counter the
| disinformation rooms and clubs on Clubhouse and I'm quoted in the
| VICE article.
| [deleted]
| conspiracist wrote:
| There's nothing unique about clubhouse in this. Doctors have
| been chased off of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit and HN
| too - the ones who haven't voluntarily left after seeing how
| ignorant confidence operates on these channels.
| nowherebeen wrote:
| Its like seeing a car crash happening in slow motion.
| dreyfan wrote:
| I see enough feel-good emoji-laden bullshit posts on LinkedIn,
| why would anyone subject themselves to an audio chatroom of the
| same?
| Apocryphon wrote:
| Sounds like good acquisition synergy.
| moogly wrote:
| Maybe Shortcut can soon get their name back that these guys
| stole[1]. Then again, that name would be tainted forever.
|
| [1] https://techstartups.com/2021/08/02/clubhouse-io-rebrands-
| sh...
| unobatbayar wrote:
| It might be a good idea to follow twitch.tv's business model.
| Jensson wrote:
| Or OnlyFans. Always good to pivot to areas others don't want.
|
| https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=...
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