[HN Gopher] 'Cottagecore' and the rise of the modern rural fantasy
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'Cottagecore' and the rise of the modern rural fantasy
Author : rustoo
Score : 77 points
Date : 2021-09-29 11:48 UTC (1 days ago)
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| davidw wrote:
| This is, in reality, probably less 'green' than living in a city.
| Multi-family homes tend to require less energy to heat and cool,
| because you share walls. You can also walk to many things. My bet
| is that most of the people living this way aren't so into the
| 'rural lifestyle' that they don't own a couple of cars that they
| use for ... pretty much everything in life.
| 0des wrote:
| What does the -core suffix mean in this context? I get that it is
| a mix of words, like hardcore, nerdcore, etc.. but why? I figured
| that was reserved for fringe extreme genres. Does anybody have
| any info on this?
| blakesterz wrote:
| https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/what-exactly-is-co...
|
| ": Cottagecore, a movement hearkening back to agricultural
| life, skills, and crafts, is on the rise. "As a concept, it
| embraces a simpler, sustainable existence that is more
| harmonious with nature. Aesthetically, it's a nod to the
| traditional English countryside style, romantic and nostalgic,"
| says Davina Ogilvie, founder of Wovn Home, a start-up that
| makes custom (but affordable and accessible) window
| treatments."
| levi-turner wrote:
| In hip fashion circles, I've seen it crop up regularly.
| Dadcore, Normcore and the like. I've always taken it to mean
| the synthesized essence of an aesthetic, or at least the
| adherents believe that to be the case.
| sprkwd wrote:
| Such a commentcore statement.
| pdabbadabba wrote:
| I don't consider myself an authority on this, but I take it to
| be a gentle bit of comedic irony, used to describe aesthetics
| that are generally the opposite what people associate with
| "hardcore," the best known earlier use of the suffix. Compare
| hardcore with, for example, prairiecore, cottagecore, dadcore,
| nerdcore.
|
| All of these terms describe an aesthetic that references the
| stereotyped essence of a way of life. But these new uses
| reference a way of life typically stereotyped to be
| approximately the opposite of "hardcore."
|
| All of them put a little smile on my face, but prairiecore is
| my favorite: https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Prairiecore
|
| Edit: Language is fun. There are eight replies to the parent
| comment so far, and almost as many interpretations of "core,"
| with different connotations. We're all sitting here
| understanding the word "cottagecore" perfectly well, but having
| subtlety--yet importantly--different subjective experiences
| while doing so.
| OldHand2018 wrote:
| I greatly appreciate that very educational link.
|
| I must take exception though, as the American tallgrass
| prairie looks nothing like that photo. Checking wikipedia,
| that would be pretty indicative of perhaps the very thin
| shortgrass prairie from pretty far west (Colorado, Wyoming,
| New Mexico) where the cowboy lifestyle was prevalent?
|
| Tallgrass prairie is gorgeous and very colorful.
| danmcs wrote:
| Like -punk, it has been suffixed onto other words to
| essentially mean "genre".
| throwanem wrote:
| It reminds me of the "-gate" suffix denoting scandal,
| originally derived from the name of the Watergate Hotel, his
| B&E crew's actions at which ultimately brought Richard Nixon
| low.
|
| Wiktionary [1] describes the "-core" suffix as a similar
| backformation from the musical genre name "hardcore", and as
| with "-gate", it seems to have developed into a general-purpose
| inflection denoting a genre or subculture - to the extent, I
| suppose, that those two concepts can any longer be
| distinguished from one another, at least.
|
| [1] https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/-core
| zamadatix wrote:
| I've always taken it as meaning/being related to the primary
| literal meaning of core:
|
| "a central and often foundational part usually distinct from
| the enveloping part by a difference in nature"
| https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/core
|
| I.e. a <prefix>core person is one whose central foundational
| part is based on <prefix>. Material related to <prefix>core is
| from/for/focused on that type of identity.
| eli wrote:
| https://ask.metafilter.com/282658/What-is-the-meaning-of-the...
| boringg wrote:
| I assumed it was moving away from the core of a city to making
| the cottage the 'new' core.
|
| Also like other comment about hardcore maybe being part of the
| etymology
| tibbydudeza wrote:
| Dealing with septic tanks - rotting uneven floors , shitty no pun
| intended plumbing and electrics - broadband from the copper era.
|
| No thanks - much prefer my modern sterile IKEA isocube.
| kaybe wrote:
| The one advantage of uneven walls and non-90deg corners is that
| my DIY fixes to everything fits in nicely and even looks good
| when done with care. Everything is easier to fix.
| tibbydudeza wrote:
| I call it artisanal DIY repairs.
| LAC-Tech wrote:
| As of writing, I live on a farm an hours drive from the nearest
| grocery store. It's still a first world country, but people
| have a lot less disposable income than the states.
|
| The floor boards do suck, and the electricity gets cut more
| often.
|
| But I get 58.6Mbps down, 21.4Mbps up. Ground to ground
| satellite.
| qq4 wrote:
| Mind mentioning your satellite isp?
| Cthulhu_ wrote:
| Same, if I were to move I'd go for something modern. That said,
| it's an idealized lifestyle, everyone's guilty of some of that
| - "I'd love to live in a van" but where do you shit? "I'd love
| to become a digital nomad and live in a cheap 5-star resort"
| but where do you keep your stuff? What about family and
| friends? "I'd love to retire to a cabin in the woods" but what
| about all the amenities you're used to, like electricity, heat,
| food, water, and internet?
|
| I mean don't get me wrong, I can see the appeal in
| 'cottagecore', but at the same time I'm being realistic about
| things.
| BoxOfRain wrote:
| I'm planning to move onto a sailing yacht next year. The
| answer for things like digital nomadism, van life, and that
| sort very much boils down to "own less stuff". For me if it
| can't fit in my 40' of boat it's either getting sold or put
| into storage.
| tibbydudeza wrote:
| Since I am close to retirement been watching videos about
| tiny homes and van life and log cabin in the middle of the
| woods and of late living on a narrowboat on the English
| waterways.
|
| But I then go camping and realize after a few days how much I
| would miss my modern amenities.
|
| Nostalgia.
| dageshi wrote:
| With DN'ing most just get rid of the majority of their stuff
| before they go. That one really isn't that difficult.
| lastofthemojito wrote:
| It's not difficult for a subset of the population who lack
| certain ties (or prefer not to keep close ties). Digital
| Nomading is obviously much harder if you've got kids to put
| in school, or elderly parents to check in on, or a partner
| who wants to keep their non-remote job, etc.
|
| When I was in my 20s and put everything in storage and
| traveled for a while it was great. Now my wife and kid (and
| the grandparents who want to see the kid), etc would make
| such a move a lot tougher in a lot of ways.
| orwin wrote:
| I live in a van 2 month/year, sometime with a friend,
| sometime alone. Pretty usefull to really visit/hike across
| France, Spain, Italy (Balkans are next i guess).
|
| Public toilet, camping toilet, or behind a tree, to answer
| your question.
| Ancapistani wrote:
| It's amusing how different people's wants and desires are.
|
| I live in a very small town from the POV of what I perceive as
| the majority of HN - <15k people, and it's the largest town in
| an hour's drive in any direction. My home is in a neighborhood
| on the edge of town that was annexed only a few years ago, and
| as a result even though my property has city sewer access, I
| still have a septic tank. I dread the day that I'm unable to
| legally keep it operational and have to tie in to city sewer.
| It's just one more monthly bill I'll have to pay. The zoning
| here is such that a homeowner can do any repair work they
| please on their own without having to get a permit or licensed
| contractor.
|
| I have gigabit fiber and solid, level floors though. :)
|
| I could easily increase my income by $75-100k if I were willing
| to move to LA or SF. I'm not even tempted by it.
| giantg2 wrote:
| "The zoning here is such that a homeowner can do any repair
| work they please on their own without having to get a permit
| or licensed contractor."
|
| Wow, that's pretty strict for a "small town". Most places
| allow you to make _repairs_ without a permit or contractor as
| long as you 're not making changes.
|
| For example, I needed a permit to put in an interlock and
| receptacle for a generator. If something breaks the
| receptacle, I can replace it with the same model/type/size
| without a permit. If I replaced it with a different type/size
| then I would need a permit. On a side note, the inspections
| are mostly a joke and just a way for the municipality to make
| money (permit costs more than the materials in many of my
| cases). The inspector had no idea about electrical stuff and
| didn't ask any questions about wire gauge/run, receptacle
| sizing, receptacle height, or how the breaker box was
| balanced. You know, the stuff that's important to do right to
| avoid fires, etc.
| cottager2 wrote:
| Having just bought a cottage, here are some things that have
| changed recently.
|
| 1. P2P wireless means you can cheaply get a 50/10 internet
| connection in remote areas. This is plenty for most users. Also
| starlink is apparently pretty good.
|
| 2. Just pay someone to pump your septic. You don't have to pay
| city taxes covering sewers so you probably come out ahead.
|
| 3. Plumbing and electrical is usually exposed, making it very
| easy to work on. For plumbing, shark bites and pex are way
| easier than soldering copper.
|
| One thing that does suck about owning a cottage is needing to
| worry about mice...
| tantalor wrote:
| > worry about mice
|
| Get a cat or two.
| tibbydudeza wrote:
| Got that covered - got 6 of them but probably only two of
| them are active mousers.
| nicwolff wrote:
| I live in a cottage in the woods and my cat brings live
| shrews _into_ the house to play with. Cats!
| tibbydudeza wrote:
| Fortunately we only had one cat who did that and she is
| now a pensioner and prefers less strenuous activities
| like sun bathing and sleeping.
|
| Trapping a mouse at 1am in the bedroom is not so
| endearing.
| silicon2401 wrote:
| What's a good resource to learn about septic? I'm interested
| in moving somewhere more rural at some point in the future
| but have no idea how septic works. I admit a slight
| squeamishness at the thought of our waste accumulating in a
| tank, but the part that I'm more concerned about is not
| knowing what the risks or processes involved are.
| giantg2 wrote:
| https://www.epa.gov/septic/how-your-septic-system-works
| Veen wrote:
| Yes, I learned my lesson after moving into a 400-year-old
| thatched cottage because I thought it was quaint. The roof and
| windows leaked. It had limited central heating and was largely
| heated by a multi-fuel burner. That meant spending an absurd
| amount of money on wood, which I had to schlep around and split
| while the weather was appalling and then spend far too long
| lighting a fire and keeping it going all day, only for the heat
| to escape out of the ill-fitting single-glazed windows which
| couldn't be replaced because it was a Grade II listed building.
| The lovely ceiling beams and all the doors were slightly too
| low, so I was constantly banging my head on them.
|
| All in all, not a great experience, although it looked very
| cosy in Instagram photos.
|
| On top of which, this "cottagecore" trend is one reason none of
| the locals in my area can afford to buy a house. The house
| prices have skyrocked since Londoners decided living in the
| middle of nowhere was cool.
| lastofthemojito wrote:
| I live in one of the few newer homes in an old mill town and
| it's great. I get to stroll the narrow streets, and admire
| the quaint architecture all around.
|
| The locally quarried stone used for the walls of the oldest
| buildings (which obviously made things difficult for
| accommodating additions containing bathrooms and kitchens).
|
| The charmingly narrow and irregular front doors on some
| houses, making it an impossible dream to move a typical new
| couch or appliance in.
|
| The turnbuckles used to stabilize some houses after all these
| years, and those cables being one more thing to hit your head
| on.
|
| Then I get home from a walk and enjoy the central air
| conditioning, tall ceilings, modern windows and level floors
| of my home. I know some of my neighbors in the older houses
| really enjoy them. They research the history of the houses
| and are enthusiastic about maintaining them and keeping
| things mostly original. The house basically becomes a hobby.
| Just about everybody likes looking at quaint old houses, so
| you have to find out if that's you or if you'd actually enjoy
| living in one too. I know I just like looking at them.
| closeparen wrote:
| Dealing with historic preservation would seem to defeat the
| purpose of living in a rural area.
| dqpb wrote:
| It's great until you realize everything has lead in it.
| wonderwonder wrote:
| Its the result of complete burnout of a large portion of society.
| So many people feel they work too much and dream of just getting
| away to something simpler. I think its a reflection of so much
| going wrong currently with society and the way we live in
| general. But I'm just some guy on the internet; I am probably
| projecting :)
|
| Edit: I often think about buying a cheap old isolated house on a
| couple acres in Italy, fixing it up and just putting the world at
| arms length. Kids and wife make it impractical so I will continue
| to trudge :)
| mothsonasloth wrote:
| Just another manifestation of people realising their life of
| metropolitan decadence is wrong, lacks meaning and is damaging to
| the human spirit.
| knownjorbist wrote:
| ...while ignoring the reasons people headed in that direction
| in the first place.
| tantalor wrote:
| Really interesting twitter thread by @SarahTaber_bww breaking
| this down from yesterday:
|
| https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1443225915073437698.html
| tibbydudeza wrote:
| All MLM's seems to come from Utah.
| newaccount2021 wrote:
| not really interesting - subliterate drivel/anger from someone
| who can't seem to handle the idea of people who are different
| than themselves
| krapp wrote:
| I'd recommend this video essay by Rowan Ellis on cottagecore and
| the LGBT community, and some of the more problematic aspects of
| the community[0].
|
| [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5odKiL7jRW0
| dweez wrote:
| "The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a
| disaster for the human race" but make it instagramable
| aussiegreenie wrote:
| Living a more sustainable life is the key to human survival. If
| you can grown your own food and produce local cleaner energy,
| humanity _MAY_ survive. The existing American-model life
| guarantees human civilisation will not live past 2040.
| jtsiskin wrote:
| Why? Wouldn't centralized larger farms be more efficient?
| giantg2 wrote:
| Depends on what efficiency your measuring and if you have any
| other factors to consider. Larger farms tend to be more
| economically efficient (at least for basic commodities, or
| because the margins are to low to support a farm under a
| specific size). But it's not a one to one comparison because
| the models and practices differ. You could say that a COFO is
| more efficient than a small ranch because they produce more
| beef on fewer acres and utilize brewer's grain from ethanol
| production. It's possible that a small farm raising organic
| wagyu might actually be more economically efficient since
| it's a higher margin product.
| AngryData wrote:
| You can't actually compare them very well because commercial
| food production uses fossil fuel derived fertilizer to feed
| its yields. Small subsidence farms often don't use any fossil
| fuel derived fertilizer, and is thus infinity sustainable,
| but also low yield. Big commercial farms rely almost entirely
| on fossil fuel derived fertilizer, which is unsustainable
| unless we pull ass tons of clean renewable energy out of our
| butts to replace it, but have extreme yields.
|
| We can make artificial fertilizer without fossil fuels, but
| the energy cost is atleast 10x what our current usage is for
| fertilizer and is already over 1% of global power. And we are
| still a ways off of producing an extra 10% of global energy
| output via completely clean power.
| horns4lyfe wrote:
| Heh. Ok, can I have all your money in 2039?
| hirundo wrote:
| In the year 1975 I was told the same thing about the year 2000.
| vesuvianvenus wrote:
| Australia is a well developed country and an analogue to your
| "the American-model". I'd call it the "Developed Industrial
| Nation"-model to be more precise.
|
| Not implying this with you, but I think it must be a trend of
| Australians to consider Americans "elitist"-- that the rich,
| obese Americans are the greedy ones ruining everything.
|
| It's just funny to me, since Australians follow the same model
| of western-european-derived economics & western-european-
| derived government.
| giantg2 wrote:
| I dream of quitting my job and living on some land. My wife
| refuses to "live in the middle of nowhere, where there's nothing
| to do". I guess I shall continue to work a job I hate in order to
| live in this expensive area.
| tibbydudeza wrote:
| I follow a youtube channel of a chap and his wife who left the
| city and relocated to a rural area to do sustainable farming
| with ducks and geese.
|
| It is interesting but it is very hard work to husband animals
| but they seem very happy.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/c/GoldShawFarm/videos
| LAC-Tech wrote:
| You have a disagreement with your significant other, and the
| resolution you came up with is "ignore what I want and just go
| with what they want" ?
|
| That doesn't sound great.
| xnyan wrote:
| It takes some effort, but you can have it (mostly) both ways. I
| live in a little rural town (Hillsborough, NC) that has farms
| in the woods and a great tiny downtown with several really good
| restaurants, pubs, and even a tiny art scene and it's only 15
| minutes away from Duke/Durham, NC with tons of great dining,
| shopping, events and so on.
|
| I'm sure there are plenty of other situations like this, nice
| semi-rural/rural towns on the edge of a metro and all it's
| services.
| giantg2 wrote:
| Yeah, most places I was looking at would be 30-60 minutes
| outside of large city, and only a short 10 or so minute drive
| to the local town.
|
| She told me one day that she never wanted to leave the
| current county (her home county). Now she is also determined
| to move into her old school district (much more expensive and
| more developed), even though the school scores aren't much
| higher than the current one and just with the money that we
| save in property taxes we could send a kid to a private
| school. Needless to say, this issue doesn't come down to
| having a rational discussion to find solutions that fit both
| of our criteria. I'm wrong, she's right, always.
| sprkwd wrote:
| Think there might be bigger issues going on there.
| slibhb wrote:
| Having escaped the necessity of living in certain ways, we find
| outselves voluntarily adopting older forms of human behavior.
|
| That's what exercising is. It's what gardening is. It's what
| having pets is. These are behaviors that mimic the surface
| characteristics of old ways of life (hunting, farming, animal
| husbandry).
| octokatt wrote:
| Heidi came out in 1881 [0], right around when the phone was
| invented and after Switzerland had a decade or so of political
| turmoil [1].
|
| When things get complicated, nostalgia for the simplicity of
| rural life, without things like dirt or economic scarcity, tend
| to come to the fore [2].
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi [1] http://history-
| switzerland.geschichte-schweiz.ch/timeline-sw... [2]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia#As_a_political_tool
| giantg2 wrote:
| Sometimes the economic scarcity is relatively less scarce than
| in urban areas. For example, at least during the depression
| those with farms had to ability to grow their own food.
|
| To be fair, sometimes the government would allow urban
| households to garden in a 1/4 acre or so plot in designated
| areas as part of a program to help people be more self
| sufficient. Although my grandfather said not many people took
| advantage of that.
| barry-cotter wrote:
| > For example, at least during the depression those with
| farms had to ability to grow their own food.
|
| Those without farms overwhelmingly didn't need to. The only
| place in North America to have widespread hunger during the
| Great Depression was Newfoundland. If most people didn't take
| advantage of allotments it was because it wasn't worth it.
| After the fall of the Soviet Union lots and lots of urban ex-
| Soviet citizens grew their own food. They needed to.
| mymythisisthis wrote:
| The ending of Don Quixote...
|
| Don Quixote replied that he himself was to be called the shepherd
| Quixotize and the bachelor the shepherd Carrascon, and the curate
| the shepherd Curambro, and Sancho Panza the shepherd Pancino.
|
| Both were astounded at Don Quixote's new craze; however, lest he
| should once more make off out of the village from them in pursuit
| of his chivalry, they trusting that in the course of the year he
| might be cured, fell in with his new project, applauded his crazy
| idea as a bright one, and offered to share the life with him.
| "And what's more," said Samson Carrasco, "I am, as all the world
| knows, a very famous poet, and I'll bealways making verses,
| pastoral, or courtly, or as it may come into my head, to pass
| away our time in those secluded regions where we shall be
| roaming. But what is most needful, sirs, is that each of us
| should choose the name of the shepherdess he means to glorify in
| his verses, and that we should not leave a tree, be it ever so
| hard, without writing up and carving her name on it, as is the
| habit and custom of love-smitten shepherds."
|
| https://www.gutenberg.org/files/5946/5946-0.txt
| redis_mlc wrote:
| I grew up in a farming area, and my family had a 30'x30' garden.
|
| Farming is a lot of work. It's a job, not a hobby.
|
| Even the garden was a fair amount of work, but more importantly,
| it's a lot of veggies to eat after harvest. I had tomato
| sandwiches daily for months. Plus insects to control. Doable, but
| not glamorous like the "cottagecore" photos.
|
| If I did a serious garden again, I'd focus on becoming a skilled
| grower of certain veggie strains over a period of decades, and
| not focus on quantity.
|
| Also, know your soil. If you're in an urban area (or downwind)
| that used to have steel or auto factories, then your soil is
| contaminated with heavy metals.
| zwieback wrote:
| ...and fighting off deer, literally sent by Satan to devour my
| tender green shoots
| dls2016 wrote:
| Six foot fence keeps the deer moving along... but those fat
| groundhogs climb right over.
| blfr wrote:
| That's just venison delivering itself.
| throwaway0a5e wrote:
| Not if you have white collar standards for "sportsmanlike
| behavior" it's not.
|
| That said, I agree with you. If I want X pounds per year of
| venison I'm gonna get it and I see no reasons to spend a
| few hours sitting in the woods during a particular part of
| the year to do it.
| PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
| It's not just a lot of work, depending on how much you can
| automate irrigation and weeding, it's a fairly sure-fire bet
| that you cannot travel during the summer.
| madaxe_again wrote:
| Eh, you can do it the hard way, or the fantastically lazy way.
| We just grow tangles - basic trellis of offcut branches, and
| then seed with a variety of complementary species, a few
| sacrificial pest magnets, and a few pest repellers. Irrigation
| is all automated drip, no feed - river (lovely and clean -
| there's very little upstream of us, no industry) floods our
| garden each winter, does the job nicely.
|
| What grows, grows, what doesn't, doesn't - and this year, even
| through a bitter drought, we have enough that we're giving it
| away. Harvesting involves rummaging, so it isn't exactly
| scalable - but for feeding a household, it's perfect.
|
| We have deer and boar here - so we also plant hemlock around
| the border of the garden, which they stay well away from. Also
| helps to piss on their trails nearby - discourages them from
| visiting. The boar, we actually take advantage of - there's a
| meadow they love to turn over every spring, digging for tubers
| - which we then throw potatoes in.
|
| I mean, outside of that, off grid life is humblingly
| challenging - but I've never been in better shape, and growing
| food is easy enough if you just let nature do its thing.
| zhynn wrote:
| I like your description of "pest magnets", I have been
| referring to them as plant tanks. My overgrown raspberries
| tank the japanese beetles for the blueberries. Plus the yield
| of the raspberries isn't significantly dented by the japanese
| beetles.
|
| My favorite piece of equipment is my wood chipper: I can turn
| all of the delivery boxes into mulch. And yard waste. And...
| basically any other biomass that will turn to dirt in 6-12
| months.
|
| We are not off-grid (dude, that's so much work). But I build
| most of my projects out of found materials (raised beds out
| of old fencing, etc). I tried my hand at making a basket out
| of grape vine, but grape vines are really "shreddy" and the
| basket is no fun to use. I was going to try coppicing some
| willow next -- baskets are really useful.
|
| It's a fun hobby, but I am lazy. And I still end up with too
| much produce (though I have a lot of space, so that makes it
| easier).
| madaxe_again wrote:
| Agreed on the wood chipper - we've fed vast volumes of
| organic waste through ours as we've 8ha of badly overdense
| and bramble/suspended dead wood choked woodland to manage,
| and the mulch is dead handy for paths and garden beds - our
| soil is very low in carbon, so everything helps.
|
| Re: weaving, vines are impossible, rett them first - soak
| 'em, maybe in lye, and then pound them with a rock to get
| fibres. Baskets, willow works great - we've goat willow all
| over, here, and use it for smaller stuff. Bigger stuff we
| use olive, as green it's supple and dry it's like a rock,
| and very rot resistant - we've made half baskets on a steep
| hill slope to catch runoff and encourage tree growth - the
| oldest ones (two years) are hosting self-seeded oak
| saplings now, which is kinda cool.
| mikro2nd wrote:
| We just had a Porcupine break into the protective cages to
| dig up and eat our entire Potato crop last night.
|
| It can be challenging.
| giantg2 wrote:
| I hear they can be used as a substitute for beef in stews.
| mikro2nd wrote:
| And the vegetarian option is.... ;)
| sprkwd wrote:
| Get rid of the Porcu- and keep the -pine? :)
| harpersealtako wrote:
| Finding an adventurous gardener friend who is willing to
| trade you fresh veggies for a dead porcupine
| zhynn wrote:
| My focus is on "lazy gardening" -- or how much can I get nature
| to automate things. How much can I use waste biomass as a
| resource. Etc. I end up with a lot of failures, but the
| successes are really satisfying. The main challenge is that the
| feedback loop is ~1yr which means that it's not a hobby for the
| impatient. :)
| schnevets wrote:
| I love my backyard garden (even though my Brussels Sprout
| experiment this year proved to be a huge waste of time). I also
| love the aesthetic that cottagecore is revitalizing. I love
| drinking at local wineries, buying stuff at my local farmer's
| market, brewing beer and swapping bottles with homebrew friends,
| etc...
|
| But holy shit am I repulsed by the influencer aspect that is
| growing with this "movement". Ways of Seeing taught that
| publicity (aka marketing) is tied to envy. There is such a deep
| schism between the Web 2.0 communities that exchange ideas on a
| forum and the vapid glamour shots posted on Instagram and Tik
| Tok. I think the takeaway is "Don't trust anyone in your hobby
| who is making money off their social media account."
|
| Maybe this is why I like homebrewing: everyone is a bearded,
| chubby 35 year old nerd and there no way to make a 5 gallon
| carboy of bubbling alcoholic liquid into something "glamourous"
| dpeck wrote:
| | "Don't trust anyone in your hobby who is making money off
| their social media account."
|
| That is a remarkably accurate, but sad observation. There's
| always been folks trying to hustle in various hobbies and
| interest groups, but these days they seem to take up all the
| oxygen in a space.
|
| The glossy image/clip video nature of things seem unavoidable
| and make many people with humbler aspirations more reluctant to
| share their works, thoughts, and perspectives if they aren't
| able to be turned into the visual equivalent of a sound bite.
| mymythisisthis wrote:
| Marie Antoinette and her friends would dress up as young
| shepherdess or milkmaids and wander around the hamlet pretending
| to be peasants, while still surrounded by the comforts of a royal
| lifestyle. A team of real farmers appointed by the Queen looked
| after the farm and the animals, and produced fruits and
| vegetables consumed at the royal table.
| https://www.amusingplanet.com/2019/11/hameau-de-la-reine-mar...
| leokennis wrote:
| I think this is not a lot different than Bezos types visiting
| Burning Man on a VIP package.
| LAC-Tech wrote:
| Aren't most of the people at burning man pretty
| fashionable/wealthy? Peasants compared to Bezos sure, but not
| the population at large.
|
| More like the king among the minor nobility.
| ben_w wrote:
| Yes, but "pretty fashionable/wealthy" would also describe
| most users on this forum.
| weregiraffe wrote:
| As if Burning Man itself isn't a LARP.
| dopamean wrote:
| I was going to say this. Burning man is for those types.
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| JohnWhigham wrote:
| Yup, the time-honored tradition of the rich LARPing as the
| commoner is as alive as ever.
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