[HN Gopher] TikTok has reached 1B MAUs
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TikTok has reached 1B MAUs
Author : mfiguiere
Score : 45 points
Date : 2021-09-27 15:27 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| reilly3000 wrote:
| Methinks that includes 'users' visiting embeds. They create a
| user for anon web visitors and record their content
| interactions/preferences in local storage- you don't have to be
| logged in for this to happen. I've been visiting tiktok.com
| without an account or the app and they serve consistently similar
| content to that user based on my interactions.
| Jazww wrote:
| And god knows how much irreversible brain damage. Well done.
| Congrats to all.
| rvz wrote:
| Let's come back in a decades time and we will see if they
| continue to complain about it or if all the cool kids moved on
| to another shiny new social media toy.
| nunez wrote:
| It seems insane how quickly they did it. How long did it take for
| YouTube to reach 1B MAUs?
| detaro wrote:
| Youtube also started in a very different world in regard to
| ubiquitous online access, not to mention _mobile_ online
| access.
| m0zg wrote:
| Anyone who willfully signs up for foreign surveillance is simply
| dumb. There's no other way to put it. That applies (to a lesser
| extent, but applies all the same) to folks from other countries
| that sign up for the likes of Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, or
| whatever else the US Government can coerce into "intelligence
| data sharing", and increasingly narrative peddling and
| censorship. Even if you are liberal, this will to eventually bite
| you in the ass, and it'll be bad.
| jasonhansel wrote:
| So...instead of signing up for foreign surveillance, we should
| sign up for domestic surveillance?
| m0zg wrote:
| You are already signed up for US surveillance if you live in
| the US, and have no choice in the matter. You have a phone,
| right? Then they know all they need to know about you - your
| location, contacts, emails, bank accounts, vices and
| proclivities. I specifically said that people from _other
| countres_ would be dumb to do so.
| Abhinav2000 wrote:
| I would have thought governments would be more worried about
| China spying on everyone and the insane data collection from
| TikTok (yes it might have an American operator in the US, but I
| can imagine they found a way to still siphon all that data to the
| mainland)...its a pretty big security risk if one thinks about it
| jcun4128 wrote:
| Would be interesting the math behind processing all of that
| data to get some useful metadata out of it.
| distribot wrote:
| I don't understand the big risk. They build a profile about the
| kind of short form videos you interact with. It's pretty
| limited.
| spoonjim wrote:
| Have you read about the Cambridge Analytica scandal?
| dzhiurgis wrote:
| Yea, it's so overblown
| ipaddr wrote:
| Your friends.. mines your phone for data.
| dougmwne wrote:
| Their algorithm is definitely capable of determing gender and
| sexual orientation just from your pattern of swipes, and I
| imagine many other things that could be potentially sensitive.
| I imagine China could have a shadow social credit profile on
| every active user, figure out who is most susceptible to
| blackmail or targeted phishing for state sponsored hacking. Of
| course this is a massive national security risk.
| imbnwa wrote:
| Just curious, but what about TikTok's data collection is at all
| distinct from what Facebook/Google collects? Wasn't it just on
| the front page that Google keeps a history of your purchase
| receipts in your Gmail account even when you've deleted them?
| This article[0], while debunking the "Facebook is listening
| through your microphone" myth, presented research that at least
| ~9000 apps were screenshoting your in-app activity, possibly
| recording video, and sending it to either a third-party or
| themselves.
|
| Or is it just that TikTok is a Chinese company?
|
| [0]https://newatlas.com/computers/facebook-not-secretly-
| listeni...
| epsteindidntk wrote:
| Is this a tired meme peddled by Zuckerberg?
|
| All I see are people dancing pool-side.
|
| All I see is billions of views being taken away from FB/YouTube
| and others...and this is the great danger. Google, FB, and any
| gaming or streaming service is losing their prime demographic:
| teens.
| joeberon wrote:
| Nice. TikTok is very fast paced. For me it has done so many
| oscillations between "this is very interesting stuff" to "it is
| trash now, it used to be good" that it's kind of making a fool of
| me. Not the usual slow downwards curve of most sites. Something
| about how it works means it seems to continuously re-invent
| itself.
| pupppet wrote:
| Just a little scary a Chinese company is shaping the minds of our
| youth.
| Ekaros wrote:
| That or USA based one... It's kinda toss up. At least the other
| one isn't bombing civilians in third countries.
| rvz wrote:
| Let's hope that we still have the freedom of expression to
| make dancing videos in Winnie the Pooh costumes in Hong Kong
| then.
| pupppet wrote:
| I choose the scary I have the potential to vote out every few
| years or so.
| Ekaros wrote:
| I don't have that option with either, so I must go with
| lesser evil.
| ausudhz wrote:
| Like it make any difference?
| pupppet wrote:
| Americans can read about those bombings anywhere. Where do
| the Chinese go to read about what their government does?
| the_doctah wrote:
| Twitter is worse.
|
| Reddit is more propagandized.
| [deleted]
| mciancia wrote:
| Nice. I wonder what kind of social media is gonna grow next to
| tiktok/fb/insta
| spywaregorilla wrote:
| If we extrapolate the trend, I'm imagining something like
| bladerunner 2049's baseline test:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrP-_T-h9YM
|
| The bare minimum of high velocity: Content, Query Emotional
| Response, Receive Emotional Response, Repeat
| kirykl wrote:
| Is there auditing on their #s ?
| madsohm wrote:
| How? I know exactly zero people who uses it. However, I do see
| TikTok videos on Instagram and Facebook all the time.
| landryraccoon wrote:
| Do you know many people under 30?
| mrfox321 wrote:
| even older people are starting to use it.
| romwell wrote:
| 34, active user.
|
| It's the freshest thing out there.
|
| The closest thing to IRC/chatrooms of Web 1.0 by how it
| feels.
|
| Yes, beats even Discord.
|
| Like, remember the days where you could just go online and
| bump into random people, and it would be _interesting_? And
| you could just throw an ugly homepage with your dog and
| "under construction" gifs without thinking twice, just
| because it's fun?
|
| That's what TikTok is like, but with videos.
| [deleted]
| Wavelets wrote:
| I'm very surprised by this number as well. It must be young
| kids. I don't know a single TikTok user either (and I don't
| have kids).
| jrockway wrote:
| I know a lot of TikTok users that are my age (~36). It isn't
| my peers that work as software engineers at tech companies;
| it's more "normal" people that I have met through Discord
| communities.
|
| (I don't mean it's abnormal to be a software engineer or
| anything, just that we're overrepresented on HN. _This_ is
| our social media. I don 't use or enjoy TikTok.)
| kenjackson wrote:
| It's super popular. My son started using it and it roped in me
| and my wife. Of my son's peer group, everyone uses it. Like
| virtually every kid. I completely believe those numbers.
| amriksohata wrote:
| how much data have they harvested to target anti china activities
| you reckon? i've had videos removed talking about politics in
| china
| Shadonototra wrote:
| Shows how great alibaba's cloud is
|
| It's sad they recently got forced to use something else in the
| west, i bet that was one of the conditions to avoid getting
| banned in the west ;)
|
| That's why we can't have nice things
|
| Looks like the american's administration don't want cloud
| competition globally, reminds me of Alstom's story, and recently
| OVH 'fires', sort of
|
| - https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Caixin/TikTok-owner-ByteDa...
| ausudhz wrote:
| Most probably they'd use 0 cloud native services and everything
| run as a custom stack in bounce of compute instances with auto
| scaling and load balancer in front (or maybe K8, I'm
| oversimplifing)
|
| Honestly, it shows that perhaps they can migrate the stack
| easily everywhere else (and indeed they did in the west).
| mey wrote:
| The other cloud providers can not compete inside China either.
| The trade wars have been on the internet for some time as each
| geopolitical region has tried to control access.
| twinkjock wrote:
| I prefer to call it TwinkJock, because those are the only two
| body types I see. :)
|
| http://TwinkJock.com
| dbbk wrote:
| Uhhhhh okay
| egberts1 wrote:
| MAUs?
| pcl wrote:
| Monthly Active Users
| changoplatanero wrote:
| Monthly active users
|
| Number of distinct people that opened the app in the last
| thirty days
| rvz wrote:
| Magnificent news for the investors in Bytedance since those
| monthly 1B users on TikTok are providing great shareholder value
| for them and when Bytedance IPOs it will give a massive return on
| investment for them.
|
| As for the users, who cares? they are working for the algorithm
| like before and its business as usual.
| throwawaysea wrote:
| I worry about a platform controlled by China influencing so much
| of the world's conversation. For instance, the CCP could use
| moderation and algorithms to alter exposure of protests
| concerning Hong Kong or movements to free Tibet. Alternatively
| they could amplify the most extreme and divisive political
| content that destabilizes their adversaries. Whenever a platform
| grows to be this big, we need to treat it like a government unto
| itself, because it literally has government-scale influence and
| power. Platforms at that scale need to be regulated and treated
| like a public-run service (with transparency, neutrality, and
| local government control). It is absolutely bizarre to outsource
| control of society's speech to giant private platforms,
| especially ones that are under the control of a foreign
| government with a long track record of coercing its private
| companies.
| sAbakumoff wrote:
| good. a lot of these kids will be able to vote in 2024 and crush
| Trump the way he never seen before.
| jdlyga wrote:
| TikTok has definitely become _the_ platform for short form video
| content. It used to be YouTube, but it 's since matured into a
| place to watch more well produced videos in the 20 minute range.
| If you haven't given TikTok a chance, try it out.
| periphrasis wrote:
| Why would I want to watch short form video content? Genuinely
| curious here.
| wongarsu wrote:
| It can convey more information than the stationary images
| that dominate much of reddit, while taking less effort to
| consume than text (it's really hard to get people to engage
| with more than the headline in written content).
|
| TikTok is imho one of the closest approximations of a
| marketplace of ideas, or a penny-university. Every topic
| under the sun is talked about (even if TikTok tries to censor
| a bunch of topics), you have various experts from their
| fields giving insights into their daily lives (like snippets
| from the daily life on an arctic base) or short tutorials
| (how to draw an owl kind of stuff), but also discussions
| about philosophy or how to deal with daily life (e.g. how to
| declutter your space if you are depressed, or how to arrange
| furniture). And unlike e.g. YouTube's recommendation
| algorithm that makes everything seem bland because it only
| shows you stuff that's like stuff you already know, TikTok's
| algorithm keeps exposing you to new things tangentially
| related to what you watched/liked, so it's more like drifting
| though an ocean of videos, with new stuff happening all the
| time.
|
| That said, TikTok should totally be enjoyed in moderation,
| and there are some places on TikTok you should avoid. If you
| linger on videos showing teens twerking, you will get more
| videos of teens twerking; and it's easy to see how that kind
| of content makes it a worse place for teens specifically
| (plus the extreme prevalence of filters, so everyone on
| TikTok looks "better" than their real life version)
| periphrasis wrote:
| Sounds like a gigantic attention suck designed to stimulate
| addiction. Moreover, it's unclear to me why opening the
| floodgates to more human expression without any concern for
| the quality of that expression is desirable. The virtue of
| social media seemed self evident in 2006 when we had little
| experience of what it would mean in practice; in 2021
| however, I think the premise that megaphoning unfettered
| expression is inherently good requires justification,
| particularly given the instability it has introduced at the
| societal scale and the addictive behavior, poor mental
| health, and loss of concentration it has often imposed at
| the individual level.
|
| Individual humans got along just fine for millennia without
| being able to broadcast the minutia of their thoughts for
| likes and subscribes: what are we really gaining by
| suddenly being able to do so in the course of two decades,
| and is it really worth the trade offs?
| wongarsu wrote:
| Humanity as a whole has spent the last couple Millennia
| accomplishing preciously little. Not because there
| weren't people with bright ideas, but because pivotal
| ideas often took centuries to spread. Many see the
| introduction of coffeehouses as a place of conversation
| in the 17th century as crucial for the Age of
| Enlightenment [1]. The speed with which we can enact
| technological and social change is proportional to the
| speed of exchange of ideas. In the 20th century the power
| to spread ideas had largely monopolized, but now the
| internet gives us many-to-many interaction beyond the
| local level. And I will gladly concede that we haven't
| figured how to do that properly, Facebook and Twitter
| seem like mostly failed experiments. But that doesn't
| mean that cracking the code for global many-to-many
| interaction isn't worth it.
|
| 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_coffeehouses_in_
| the_17...
| periphrasis wrote:
| I agree that precious little occurred in terms of
| technological advancement. However, I think it's a more
| tendentious claim with respect to cultural achievement.
| For example, all the great epic poems of the Western
| tradition predate the Enlightenment (although there have
| been notable failed/incomplete epics since then). In
| terms of Humanism, it's unclear to me that we're doing
| better than our far less technologically sophisticated
| ancestors.
|
| That aside, my broader concern is with our civilizational
| stability. We are still too close to and to involved in
| the events of the past two years to achieve any kind of
| objectivity, but I am increasingly concerned that, at
| least in the American context, things are not going to
| work out. Between worsening climate change, an incipient
| and solidifying neo-Fascist mass movement, the
| disinformational chaos of social media, the mass death of
| a pandemic, and an increasingly sclerotic US hegemony,
| our civilization is experiencing profound pressures of
| the sort which historically presaged extended periods of
| violence and chaos.
|
| I hope that I am completely wrong, but it's difficult to
| read the stories (and for that matter the crueler
| comments) of r/HermanCainAward and not come away with the
| conclusion that social media has broken our society to
| the tune of 2000 unvaccinated dead per day and counting.
| mgh2 wrote:
| The short format is very much like sales pitches, so
| everyone there is like a salesman, bser of sorts.
|
| Millennials created this trend, Generation Z is growing it.
| Social media is essentially an addicting & fun platform for
| mass brainwashing.
| f0e4c2f7 wrote:
| It's a similar dynamic to why tweets can be better than long
| form blog posts. The time limit forces content creators to
| actually get the content out. On YouTube (which I still love)
| it's endless intros, ads, disgressions, and sidetracks.
| YouTube videos often have the similar quality, it's just 40
| seconds of content spread out over 12 minutes. TikTok and
| twitter incentive for denser content.
| spoonjim wrote:
| There's a broader question of "why would I want to consume
| any sensory input? Why would I want to read a book, watch a
| movie, look at a sunset, have a conversation?" I can't help
| you there, consult your local philosopher.
|
| But if you do want to consume sensory input, what I find
| TikTok excels at is: * Dances / skits * Musical
| collaborations (esp. The Wellerman) * Funny little videos
| like with a kitten or puppy * Recipes / cooking techniques
| periphrasis wrote:
| I particularly had in mind "why would I want to consume
| this particular form of sensory input in preference to
| others?" and "why is this good and useful to an individual
| and a society as opposed to just a platform for selling
| noise?" and "what are the social, ethical, and economic
| trade offs of devoting our time, privacy, and money to
| platforms like this?" As you note, these are questions that
| don't necessarily have answers; I'm just trying to clarify
| for myself whether I should view 1B MAUs with dread,
| indifference, or appreciation.
| dzhiurgis wrote:
| Same reason you'd use twitter I suppose. That said TT's
| biggest advantage is it's recommendation engine. It really
| picks up quick your interests.
|
| Downsides of tiktok is:
|
| * can't find upload date
|
| * cant effectively share links in comments (they aren't
| clickable)
|
| * pretty confusing video editor if you don't wanna share
| results
| romwell wrote:
| Because you actually get to see people in their environment
| and interact with them by _speaking_ in response, as you
| would have in an actual conversation.
|
| It's not about _content_ , it's about _communicating with
| video snippets_.
| periphrasis wrote:
| Very interesting distinction. I remain deeply skeptical
| that this is a good or useful technology, but you've
| effectively summed up why it's compelling to users in
| comparison to other social media. Thanks!
| daptaq wrote:
| I'll just relink to my last comment:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28024747:
|
| > My impression is that TikTok is the most shameless exploiter
| of curating content to maximize attention. You resign all the
| control and hope to petition "the algorithm" to change what you
| get to see -- like some kind of a god that ultimatly controls
| you, no matter what you sacrifice. They are in a position to
| spread propaganda and prevent imformation from spreading -- or
| you from being heard. Even more so, this can be individualized
| (especially with the rise of virtual influencers). I wonder, if
| it might eventually be able to change someone's mind by slowly
| nudging them in the right direction, breaking down pre-existing
| beliefs and positions. And as youtube, twitter, etc. have
| shown, one of the main ways to increase addiction is to spread
| controversy. Have people screem and cry at one another, who
| wants mediation? Society is being reduced to a means of
| entertainment.
|
| Considering that one out of eight human being are using this
| app is terrifying to me. Even more when considering that people
| in the third world might be less likely to use a video-
| intensive service like this, meaning that in the first-world,
| especially among people my age the rate is even higher! I
| consider it a concrete danger, that should be taken seriously.
| ausudhz wrote:
| I think this is a generic statement that can be applied to
| any social media nowadays. I wonder what's the solution?
| wongarsu wrote:
| Newspapers can spread propaganda or keep information from
| spreading, or you from being heard.
|
| Yes, everyone using TikTok as their only source of news and
| entertainment is incredibly bad. But that can be said (and
| has been said) about almost any source of news or
| entertainment. We should rather teach us and our children
| healthy engagement with media, how to avoid addiction and how
| to make sure we engage with different platforms.
|
| If you don't let any one platform monopolize your attention,
| having a Chinese platform as counterbalance to all the
| American platforms seems great. A Chinese platform is
| unlikely to have the same interests as a US platform, so it's
| easier to see the bias in either if you consume both.
| kevinlst wrote:
| True, youtube was supposed to be for creator at first. It was
| popular because of hilarious short videos even their tagline
| was "Broadcast Yourself"
| loloquwowndueo wrote:
| Wasn't the tiktok app lambasted for being terribly intrusive
| and data-collecty?
| dzhiurgis wrote:
| Probably same as fb and insta. Just use it via browser.
|
| (It wasn't trusting my incognito mode when using playwright,
| but saving session while in iPhone mode worked)
| asadlionpk wrote:
| 1B users don't care. Content is amazing though!
| Nicksil wrote:
| 1B users don't know.
| rvz wrote:
| 1B users will find out the hard way just like with every
| social network: Data breaches.
|
| Won't be surprised to see it eventually happen.
| crubier wrote:
| I still have to experience the dire consequences of all
| breaches my data was leaked in. I guess the worst
| consequence is probably that I experienced better
| targeted ads (that were blocked by my ad-blocker
| anyway?).
|
| I'd say 1B users don't really care, and rightly so,
| because really the data of which Tik-Tok videos you watch
| is not really something life threatening for most of
| them.
| missedthecue wrote:
| What would even a total and complete data breach reveal
| about your average user though? That Jane Doe from
| Billings, Montana loves (has a high interaction rate
| with) short cat videos, squat exercise tutorials, and
| relationship-oriented TikToks?
|
| None of these 1B users upload their credit card info or
| social security numbers to the platform.
| soco wrote:
| And they probably got there because Twitter killed Vine...
| amanzi wrote:
| People still share Vines on TikTok!
| Andrew_nenakhov wrote:
| Am I the only one who sees it as a problem that US and European
| companies can't really work on China market, but they leave their
| markets wide open for Chinese companies?
|
| Like, no company is allowed in US/Europe if it does not recognize
| Taiwan as an independent state? Isn't it how conforming to local
| rules and regulations should work?
|
| UPD: clarification due to people mentioning Mercedes, etc: my
| comment was mostly directed at _internet_ companies.
| jdlyga wrote:
| That's the unique/controlling way that China works. They block
| foreign apps to spur the development of local alternatives. But
| plenty of western businesses have thrived in China. KFC, Pizza
| Hut, Apple, Audi to name a few off hand. I definitely suggest
| visiting a Pizza Hut in China some time in your life, it's an
| experience (they serve wine).
| vonadz wrote:
| and escargot
| endisneigh wrote:
| Plenty of foreign companies operate in China, so not sure what
| you're going on about.
| runawaybottle wrote:
| This was the digital trade war Trump almost started. He started
| banning all their tech companies because they banned our tech
| companies.
|
| It's a totally fair point, but who knows how it would have all
| ended. We'll see what happens next year when Xi is up for
| lifetime appointment. I feel like that's the world's one chance
| to change China.
| buryat wrote:
| there's Huawei and others that can't work in the US
| https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/US-...
| RicoElectrico wrote:
| Yeah, the broken reciprocity (and how the West got there) is
| embarrassing or even upsetting.
|
| What if... just what if a few decades ago WTO didn't take
| Chinese word for it?
| Ekaros wrote:
| I think any developing or non-western country really should
| be wary of WTO. In general it doesn't seem to have best
| interest of them at heart. Instead playing for established
| players...
| shp0ngle wrote:
| Trump almost banned TikTok.
|
| Then he lost elections.
|
| You don't get to threaten TikTok and win.
| thiagoharry wrote:
| > Like, no company is allowed in US/Europe if it does not
| recognize Taiwan as an independent state?
|
| But not even US or most Europe formally recognizes Taiwan as a
| country. In Europe only Holy See in Vatican recognizes.
| hungryhobo wrote:
| apple, bmw, mercedes benz, ikea would like a word with you
| ausudhz wrote:
| Microsoft, Tesla, Walmart
| minhazm wrote:
| I'm guessing they mean internet services. The list of blocked
| services in China is large. Most of the companies you
| associate with using the internet in the US are blocked in
| China.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma.
| ..
| BitwiseFool wrote:
| One of the most surprising things to me about TikTok is that it
| _isn 't_ a Bay Area startup. For the longest time every hot
| social media app/platform was American.
| romwell wrote:
| That's because TikTok gets something that people here don't.
|
| Just look at this comment thread; very few people understand
| what's positive about TikTok, what's _new_ and _different_
| about it, and why both Instagram and YouTube can 't catch up.
|
| Literally all criticisms apply to Instagram too, but TikTok is
| not Instagram.
|
| That's because TikTok is way more decentralized than any other
| photo/video platform: it's less creator/consumer relationship,
| and more of a community, like reddit or HN, where you
| _communicate with video snippets_.
|
| I.e. by _talking_ , which is _natural_ for us. It 's a big,
| asynchronous in-person dialogue.
|
| There's content too, but that's not what makes the platform
| unique.
|
| Why the Bay Area is blind to that, I can't comprehend.
| silksowed wrote:
| agree with all of this. in addition i am yet to see a content
| algorithm that is as good as tiktok's. i swear it knows what
| i like more than i do. ancedotally, whenever my close friend
| and i share a tik tok there is ~50% chance we have already
| seen it.
| sergiomattei wrote:
| To be fair, HN is a particularly conservative crowd that I
| wouldn't say represents the tech industry as a whole.
| draygonia wrote:
| I disagree. How is Tiktok different from Vine or YTMND aside
| from different video formats, editing tools and a catalogue
| of songs? I understand they were able to monetize it unlike
| the other two but they seem very much the same.
| romwell wrote:
| You mean, aside from literally everything that makes a
| platform?
|
| I have outlined how it's different, already, but I guess I
| can give a more detailed answer:
|
| * You _interact_ with _other users_ with _videos_ in the
| same way you interact with users on HN with comments. There
| is a built-in tool to "quote" (aka Stitch), and link your
| video to a video _or text comment_ that you are responding
| to.
|
| * The "duet" mode enables a new way of interacting: making
| something _together_ with other people, take and remix what
| they 've done to make something new. In particular, using
| audio from other videos made something new: video memes,
| where people _act_ to the audio that 's being played.
|
| If you've ever seen Rocky Horror Picture Show live-acted,
| it's like that, but at scale.
|
| * Removing the friction for making a video is, in fact, a
| big deal. The format (vertical video), the very-much
| unpolished posts (unlike Instagram), the sheer quantity of
| them removes inhibition from hitting that record button and
| sending off your random thought about anything out there.
|
| On top of this, one thing that I didn't mention is:
|
| * Algorithm that does a good job of linking _people_ to
| each other in addition to showing you _content_. As a
| result, _TikTok automatically forms communities_.
|
| If you use reddit, you know how cohesive subreddits can be.
| TikTok's algorithm creates a somewhat similar experience by
| bringing people interested in the same things together.
|
| I hope this suffices for a start.
|
| Before further commenting, I'd recommend you actually _use_
| the platform. Forming a superficial opinion based on
| second-hand views doesn 't result in being well-informed.
| pugets wrote:
| I wonder how many of these users are unique. TikTok makes it
| simple to have two or more accounts. A number of content creators
| (especially ones who make NSFW non-nude content) have alt
| accounts that they can use when their main gets muted.
| lightroast123 wrote:
| Those two or more accounts have a shared device id
| mohanmcgeek wrote:
| Yes. These numbers are probably made up.
|
| Instagram despite being around for much longer and not being
| banned in the largest internet market (India) has only 1B MAU.
|
| Tiktok isn't available in China either. That's a different app
| from bytedance if I understand it correctly
| ausudhz wrote:
| Meanwhile FB, Instagram and twitter are full of bots and fake
| profile.
|
| Something that definitely can be done in TikTok also but the
| nature of the content (video) make it more complicated.
|
| FB is full of people with double profile also, I've friends
| that have been having two profiles for ages. I think is a
| common issue
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