[HN Gopher] I just don't want to be busy anymore
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       I just don't want to be busy anymore
        
       Author : PretzelFisch
       Score  : 69 points
       Date   : 2021-09-26 22:02 UTC (58 minutes ago)
        
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       | runawaybottle wrote:
       | Eddie Murphy's joke about relationships boiling down to the other
       | person asking 'well what have you done for me lately' is pretty
       | much the gist of many careers. I'm pretty sure I shipped some
       | impactful stuff this year, but lately, well - what have I done
       | for the company lately?
       | 
       | This can work in two ways. The first is you can be a victim of
       | this and feel betrayed. The second is, you just have to realize
       | another chance will come along where the thing you did most
       | recently will be recognized.
       | 
       | It's like poker hands. Don't think you suck because you got a
       | bunch of bad hands in a row. Don't bet on those hands, and don't
       | bluff. Just wait until you are ready, because those face cards
       | and pocket aces are coming.
       | 
       | Take it easy (and take that nap).
        
       | gregd wrote:
       | As a 54 year old Software Engineer, who has had a nice IT career
       | for over 26 years, I'm spent.
       | 
       | This is coming from someone who has always had a growth mindset
       | and had a really hard time sitting still. I used to loathe naps
       | and felt like I was missing out if I took one. Now, I take a one
       | hour nap almost daily and I'm finding that after 1pm I'm
       | basically fried (I start working around 7AM).
       | 
       | I'm not sure what to do about it, if anything. If I could retire
       | now, I would.
       | 
       | I'm trying very hard to get my earnestness about learning new
       | things back and I'm finding that my motivation has just tanked.
       | 
       | I'm afraid this is a permanent state now.
        
         | tenaciousDaniel wrote:
         | I feel that way now but I'm only 37. I knew it was a bit soon
         | so I went to a doctor, and turns out my testosterone is at 250
         | (whereas at my age it should be over 1,000).
         | 
         | No idea if that's something you've already explored, but felt
         | it couldn't hurt to share.
        
           | codenesium wrote:
           | Same age. Same experience.
        
           | gregd wrote:
           | This is something I've entirely thought about and likely
           | suffering from.
           | 
           | That being said, I am trying some other remedies before I
           | take Androgel or Androderm and they seem to be slightly
           | helping.
        
           | hammock wrote:
           | >whereas at my age it should be over 1,000
           | 
           | Where did you get that reference range for a 37 year old? I'm
           | not sure that was even true 30 years ago.
        
           | tartoran wrote:
           | I started taking some Ashwaganda and experienced positive
           | effects so far. Give it a try, maybe it works out for you as
           | well
        
         | dangle1 wrote:
         | It's so hard to reply without coming off as presumptuous and
         | ignorant of your situation, so I apologize in advance. These
         | kinds of feelings can of course be a sign of burnout that can
         | get better with the suggestions in the article plus some
         | significant time off that doesn't come with the penalty of
         | having to make up for all the time off.
         | 
         | On the other hand, maybe it's time to reexamine when you can
         | retire. There are a lot of forums about this, my wife 'rescued'
         | me from feeling like I needed to work to normal retirement age
         | after reading a lot of Mr. Money Mustache, FWIW.
        
         | RobRivera wrote:
         | Have you ever taken a sabbatical?
        
           | gregd wrote:
           | An unpaid sabbatical just isn't in the cards for me at the
           | moment.
        
         | paulcole wrote:
         | Just curious, but what's your definition of "growth mindset"?
         | 
         | I love being challenged, believe I can change to meet most
         | challenges I face, and enjoy looking for opportunities to
         | improve myself. This is how I'd understood the concept of
         | "growth mindset" from Carole Dweck's book Mindset.
         | 
         | Maybe the difference for me is that none of these things are
         | core components of my identity? It's just a way of interacting
         | with the world that I find interesting vs. something I feel
         | compelled to go all-gas-no-brakes on all the time.
        
           | gregd wrote:
           | My definition of growth mindset is the same as yours.
           | 
           | I don't identify with it so much as I think of it as my
           | baseline. Does this mean my baseline has changed? Absolutely.
           | 
           | It's still irksome because I too enjoyed looking for
           | opportunities to improve myself or the methods I use to get
           | things done. Now, I just don't give a fuck.
        
         | bumby wrote:
         | I never really made the connection before listening to a recent
         | podcast with an expert on serotonin and dopamine, but do you
         | think this is a natural effect of declining dopamine. Online
         | searching seems to indicate dopamine declines with age and is
         | also responsible for taking risks and motivation for both short
         | and long term goal attainment
        
           | gregd wrote:
           | This is highly likely and is worthy of much more research on
           | my end.
           | 
           | Thank you for reminding me of this!
        
         | mettamage wrote:
         | Typed on my phone.
         | 
         | Six hours of work? Lie the other 2 and call it a day.
         | 
         | Or, renegotiate a contract for 6 hours per day.
         | 
         | Given how much productivity I presume you bring, I'd lie.
         | 
         | I don't feel bad about it since companies care too little (in
         | general). If they care, then I would care. E.g. a 10x more
         | productive engineer doesn't get 10x the pay. I met one of these
         | people, they lied. They worked 2 hours, shipped one hour of
         | code in production, saved the other one to commit on a rainy
         | day and still got employee of the year because they were by far
         | the most productive.
         | 
         | You could also become a freelancer, then you don't have to lie.
         | 
         | My point is: six hours of productive work should be enough.
        
           | gregd wrote:
           | Part of the problem is that I'm a Software Engineer as well
           | as a Business Analyst and Project Manager. I'm also managing
           | a dev team, so it's really difficult to only work 6 hours a
           | day. Hell, I can't even do all my work in a 40 hour work
           | week.
           | 
           | Yes, I realize this isn't a me issue and I'm looking for
           | other work. The problem is that I'm encountering a lot of
           | ageism in this field too.
        
             | mettamage wrote:
             | I simply don't finish work if I am spent. If I do, then I
             | am worse the next week. I have the luxury of only needing
             | to take care of myself.
             | 
             | Ask to hire for help. The business case is: either you
             | break down, and the company loses a valuable person, or
             | they get extra hands and can resume business operations.
             | And while you're at it ask for a pay raise because you were
             | likely underpaid.
             | 
             | Ageism sucks. See if you can look younger or see if you can
             | work at a company of a linkedin connection.
             | 
             | I am just brainstorming, you know what might apply to you.
        
       | MattGaiser wrote:
       | One of the things which quickly overwhelms me is just all the
       | little stuff.
       | 
       | Couple big ticket items? No problem. Long list of 5-20 minute
       | items, or even worse, conversations of indefinite length?
       | Exhausting.
        
         | volfied wrote:
         | I work for a big company (F500), and one thing that always
         | bothers me is the out of nowhere Slack messages that are three
         | paragraphs long, by someone I have never met within the
         | company. If I start helping them right away, they are happy to
         | keep me online for the next hour while my flow is gone, god
         | knows where.
         | 
         | I am trying to find the nicest way to say: "This should be an
         | e-mail conversation, please send email.", but I wish I could
         | somehow start an email draft that is saved and shows up in some
         | to-do list somewhere.
        
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