[HN Gopher] Jellyfin: Free Software Media System
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Jellyfin: Free Software Media System
Author : marcodiego
Score : 66 points
Date : 2021-09-26 21:24 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| sergiotapia wrote:
| I've used Plex, currently on Emby - why should I switch to
| Jellyfin, they seem identical? Almost a fork really. Appreciate
| the info, this is a real question and I can make the switch
| easily enough :)
| hbcondo714 wrote:
| One feature I would like to see catch on is having media center
| software come with a router. Plex does this[1] which means you
| can use the USB drive on a router to store and stream your media
| files without extra components like a NAS. Simple setup, I would
| like to see routers as clients[2] for Jellyfin.
|
| [1] https://support.plex.tv/articles/230934267-netgear-
| nighthawk...
|
| [2] https://jellyfin.org/clients/
| jchw wrote:
| I switched off of Emby to Jellyfin a fairly long time ago. It's
| pretty good. I've had some annoying issues upgrading my instance
| over time, but otherwise it generally works. The ecosystem is
| also a bit young, but I have no huge complaint about the apps.
| Finamp is pretty nice for example; it's a Jellyfin client
| optimized for music playback.
| cookiecaper wrote:
| Jellyfin doesn't run on FreeBSD because .NET doesn't run on
| FreeBSD. This is sad.
| querez wrote:
| In contrast to most people in this thread, I don't find Jellyfin
| to be an all-around great experience. Maybe because I run the JF
| client on a Google Chromecast, and the "Jellyfin for Android TV"
| app is very unstable. I get roughly one crash a day, mostly when
| restarting a movie-watching. The UI is okay, but there are a lot
| of small annoyances (why is there no "restart from beginning"
| button? Why can't I use the "wheel/cursor thing" on my remote to
| go forward/back?, why does it so often fail to automatically
| recognize/parse filenames, or download cover art? Why can't a
| folder contain both movies and tv series?).... All in all, it's
| mediocre at best, but I'm still glad it exists: despite
| everything, I still use it over other alternatives, because it's
| open source and works well enough. I can live with having to
| restart the client every now and then.
| comice wrote:
| I only use Plex because they have a native LG webos app.
|
| jellyfin has one too and are currently in the process of getting
| into the official LG app store, awesome!
|
| it was rejected a couple of times for some bugs the LG reviewers
| found, all of which are fixable and being worked on. looks pretty
| much a done deal.
| zain wrote:
| Where do you keep track of the LG app status? I'd love to track
| the progress too
| jszymborski wrote:
| I've been a Plex-to-Jellyfin convert for a long while now, and
| I've nothing bad to say. I switched because Plex kept pushing
| their streaming services, and the fuzzy feeling I get from
| running FOSS.
|
| Jellyfin used to run on my desktop which has a beefy CPU/GPU, but
| runs fine on my puny Synology NAS.
| awill wrote:
| I'm with you. I wish Plex they didn't offer a lifetime plex
| pass, because one-time payments are likely the cause of Plex
| needing to do all this extra stuff no one asked for to further
| monetize.
|
| I check out Jellyfin periodically, but the last time I checked
| it isn't quite ready to replace Plex for me. All the apps (ios,
| Android, Android TV) aren't great, crash, and I don't think the
| codec support or audio passthrough support was that good.
| Hopefully in the future.
| candiddevmike wrote:
| How difficult is the transition from Plex to Jellyfin, do you
| lose any capabilities?
|
| Also what's the fuzzy feeling you get running FOSS? Do you
| contribute to the project?
| rglullis wrote:
| Just being an user of a FOSS system is already a huge
| contribution. It provides a good feedback loop for developers
| and brings motivation for the teams to solve issues that are
| sidelined when no one seems to care.
|
| Granted, FOSS developers don't live off user feedback alone,
| but if you depend on 1% of your user base becoming faithful
| financial backers, the more users you have, the better it is.
| executive wrote:
| - no Samsung Tizen app yet, have to use FireTV/Roku app/DLNA
| streaming. Have not tried development version
| (https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-tizen)
|
| - no offline download in iOS app. Can use browser UI and
| download mkv to device.
| endisneigh wrote:
| I'm curious - why does it matter if Plex is pushing their
| streaming services? Isn't it really easy to ignore?
| executive wrote:
| Jellyfin UI is cleaner, no upsell buttons and does not tie
| everything to cloud account.
| oliwarner wrote:
| You can actually toggle them all off in the settings. You'll
| never see them in a client after that.
|
| I have no problem with Plex doing this. They're trying to
| show value for a service rather than just gatekeeping premium
| convenience features.
|
| My problem with Plex is the utter distain they show for users
| by not having any sort proper bug triage. Users throw
| themselves at a forum that staff members rarely interact
| with. It's desperate.
| MikusR wrote:
| Seeing how Jellyfin runs on raspberry pi 4 your Synology must
| be very fast with lots of ram.
| y4mi wrote:
| It might just have hardware support for relevant codecs. They
| often do, which gives them a massive advantage when playing
| media files.
| MikusR wrote:
| It only hosts the files.
| fragmede wrote:
| Plex, its costs-money competition, transcodes files for
| playback (using `ffmpeg` or `libav` iirc). Is `jellyfin`
| less capable in this department then or something else?
| wolrah wrote:
| Hosting files takes almost no CPU power. If you're
| running in to trouble on anything you're transcoding,
| which means converting the files from the format they're
| in on disk to something else for streaming (usually to
| reduce the bitrate for internet transmission or because
| the player doesn't support the native format).
|
| If you aren't streaming over the internet, disable
| transcoding and you're more or less only limited by
| bandwidth.
| MikusR wrote:
| No transcoding. Jellyfin simply running uses too much ram
| (like 10 times plex does) so pi runs out of memory and
| starts swapping.
| jszymborski wrote:
| It's got 4Gb RAM and 4 cores at 2.2Ghz. (RPi4 has 1.5Ghz if
| I'm reading Wiki right).
|
| It's certainly not as quick as on my desktop, but it's rare
| if 2 people in my household stream video from it so no
| trouble so far.
|
| I have only recently switched from desktop to NAS though, so
| perhaps I'll notice the performance later on.
| machrider wrote:
| I'm running Jellyfin on a recent Intel-based Synology (they
| also have cheaper ARM CPU models), and it can transcode
| H.265->H.264 on the fly using about 50% CPU. It also runs in
| a Docker container so it's pretty easy to manage. I'm a big
| fan!
| notesinthefield wrote:
| How much of your use is audio streaming? I'm dying to make my
| collection remotely accessible after leaving the Plex
| ecosystem.
| napkin wrote:
| Just try Navidrome!
| jszymborski wrote:
| In the past I wasn't super thrilled by Jellyfin's audio
| streaming (nor Plex's tbh).
|
| I'm auditioning Subsonic at the moment, but I might give
| Ampache a go soon (it's apparently having a bit of a revival
| at the moment).
| hardwaresofton wrote:
| Also check out funkwhale!
| rglullis wrote:
| I want to say +1 for funkwhale, but I didn't get it to
| work with the subsonic client and haven't found yet a way
| to download/cache songs from my library on the phone.
| Have you figured this out?
| gh02t wrote:
| Airsonic is also nice. I was a long time (paying) Subsonic
| user, but got a bit fed up with it and migrated.
| whoisburbansky wrote:
| Tangential note about Plex; if you're like me and are
| disappointed by the default buffering behavior in Plex basically
| making it near-impossible to seek between already-buffered
| positions easily, I've been using
| https://github.com/iwalton3/plex-mpv-shim to cast Plex from my
| phone to mpv on my linux media box with great success.
| clutch89 wrote:
| I love Jellyfin, but its inability to Chromecast from iOS is a
| dealbreaker. I think they're working on a whole new iOS app
| though that has a working chromecast button -
| https://github.com/jellyfin/Swiftfin
| jacobmischka wrote:
| Sadly, Chromecast is essentially broken on Android too and has
| been for about a year. Stable version of the Chromecast plugin
| in the app is ancient and the nightly version doesn't work with
| stable server.
| reddog wrote:
| I have moved from Plex to Emby and finally to Jellyfin to run the
| Raspberry Pi media server in my camping van. The problem with
| Plex and Emby (other than their business model of wanting to
| collect a monthly fee for allowing you to watch _your_ _own_
| media) was that they required the server to phone home before
| they would work. This isn 't possible if you are camping and
| don't have a cell/wifi signal.
|
| And Jellyfin has worked well. The server and clients aren't as
| slick as Plex but they work just fine and give me a lot more
| flexiblity in moving media from my home server to the van since
| the way they store the media metainfo is the same on the Mac OS
| and the RPi OS.
| napkin wrote:
| If you're looking for a slick cross-platform Jellyfin client in
| the Apple ecosphere, try Infuse. It's quite polished, and even
| available for tvOS- my personal motivation for using it.
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