[HN Gopher] New Myanmar's junta has cut off internet/mobile in 2...
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       New Myanmar's junta has cut off internet/mobile in 22 townships
        
       Author : giuliomagnifico
       Score  : 57 points
       Date   : 2021-09-26 16:09 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (yac.news)
 (TXT) w3m dump (yac.news)
        
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       | legerdemain wrote:
       | Tangentially, what's up with what we call that country in
       | English?
       | 
       | "Myanmar" is the standard modern name and "Burma" is the name
       | from the British colonial times.
       | 
       | However, we have to realize that the R in "Myanmar" reflects
       | British phonetics and should therefore be _silent_. No, NPR
       | correspondent, it 's not "My Ann Mar," it's more like "Maa Maa."
       | 
       | Second, the renaming to "Myanmar" was approved by the ruling
       | junta. Using that spelling for the country's name is like calling
       | Taiwan "Chinese Taipei." Is it ethical to give this name
       | credibility?
       | 
       | Finally, "Burma" and "Myanmar" are actually the same place name,
       | written in two different orthographies. The latter prefers an
       | archaizing pronunciation that the junta favors.
       | 
       | So, why still "My Ann Mar, previously known as Burr Mah"?
        
         | fragmede wrote:
         | Colonialism, along with a great deal of inertial, mostly.
         | There's a long _long_ list of things that English pronounces
         | "wrong".
         | 
         | Thank you for helping me update my pronunciation!
        
           | livindub wrote:
           | Like Uyghur. I absolutely hate anglophone reporting in their
           | plight because of how they butcher that name into oblivion.
        
       | josephcsible wrote:
       | In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case
       | where the good guys have tried to cut off civilians' ability to
       | communicate?
        
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         | pphysch wrote:
         | > In the entire history of mankind, has there ever been a case
         | where the good guys
         | 
         | "Good guys"? What does this mean?
        
           | kadoban wrote:
           | In history, over the long term, it typically means "whoever
           | won".
        
           | LegitShady wrote:
           | if you're not sure it means you should carefully consider
           | your ethics.
        
         | Rd6n6 wrote:
         | Cutting off your enemy's communications has always been
         | important. Most authoritarian governments decide eventually
         | that their biggest enemy, outside of wartime, is their own
         | people
        
         | mcny wrote:
         | I imagine by definition cutting access makes them not good
         | guys?
         | 
         | I can think of a few things I read on hn:
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26023402 (India)
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2879546 (San Francisco)
        
           | FpUser wrote:
           | He probably meant guys who call themselves good. Like
           | preaching their exceptionalism while killing and otherwise
           | fucking up truckloads of "they hate our freedoms" people.
        
           | josephcsible wrote:
           | > I imagine by definition cutting access makes them not good
           | guys?
           | 
           | Fair question, so how about either that they were the good
           | guys, or that they would have been other than this one
           | action?
        
       | LegitShady wrote:
       | just like australia, basically.
        
         | arcticbull wrote:
         | Mm, nope not like that at all.
        
           | LegitShady wrote:
           | No, it has many similarities.
        
             | HAL9001Ti wrote:
             | From the article:
             | 
             | > Junta soldiers are also accused of engaging in the brutal
             | murder of a local pastor and several gang rapes of women
             | and children. The junta is also systematically abducting
             | the relatives of people it is seeking to arrest, including
             | children as young as 20 weeks old. As of July, the junta
             | has murdered at least 75 children ranging in age from 14
             | months to 17 years.
        
               | LegitShady wrote:
               | currently the australian police are only beating already
               | defeated non violent protesters. Shooting them in the
               | back with 'non lethal' ammunition. Beating people on the
               | ground with the butts of their guns, or kneeing them from
               | a run. Any of those things could already lead to deaths.
               | The state intervened to make sure no one could livestream
               | events, or cover them from the air, to protect their
               | shock troopers from consequences of their actions for the
               | state. Give them some time and no punishment and who
               | knows where it will go, except that it will escalate.
               | 
               | It's not currently the same, but it has many
               | similarities. Government out of control, state brutality
               | against innocents. If none of the australian police are
               | punished for their behaviour it will escalate because
               | that is the nature of people.
               | 
               | There is a reason people fetishized liberty, but it seems
               | many forgot.
        
         | Ms-J wrote:
         | Poor AU. I sincerely hope their citizens rise up and crush
         | their opposition.
        
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