[HN Gopher] Slacktyping: I'm typing when you're typing (2018)
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Slacktyping: I'm typing when you're typing (2018)
Author : thunderbong
Score : 499 points
Date : 2021-09-23 20:26 UTC (1 days ago)
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| amoe_ wrote:
| I know it's a joke but IIRC these simple scripts don't work
| anymore, as Slack deprecated the token-only auth mechanism.
| neutronicus wrote:
| Always good to see a "Fix 100% CPU Usage" commit message
| Johnny555 wrote:
| That update broke my workflow. I configured Slack to interpret
| a rapid CPU temperature rise as "send thumbs up emoji".
|
| (stolen from https://xkcd.com/1172/)
| eyelidlessness wrote:
| Slashdot's slide into rampant abuse and 4chan levels of
| racism was gradual until it was sudden. When I finally
| stopped visiting, I felt confident saying "nothing of value
| was lost". But that was wrong.
|
| This is the umpteenth time I've seen an appropriate, relevant
| XKCD reference downvoted for no apparent reason in the last
| few days. I miss the inevitable perfect recall for relevant
| XKCD in the old Slashdot days. It's sad that there's
| apparently such disdain for that sort of fun on here, even in
| comments on a fun submission.
| floren wrote:
| Slashdot had turned to garbage before the first XKCD was
| ever published.
|
| "Obligatory XKCD" comments read like low-effort karma grabs
| to me and presumably others. "You, sir, owe me a new
| keyboard!" "Here, take my updoot!!!".
| eyelidlessness wrote:
| > Slashdot had turned to garbage before the first XKCD
| was ever published.
|
| Sure, and it was probably always garbage. The point of
| the observation was that as garbage became sewage and
| filth, I thought whatever value there ever had been was
| naught. But I realized something was lost in that
| process. Clearly you disagree with that...
|
| > "Obligatory XKCD" comments read like low-effort karma
| grabs to me and presumably others.
|
| The link above and many of the others I've seen haven't
| engaged that way. But even if so, so what? The actual
| linked content is both relevant and engaging for those
| curious. I still find myself amused going back to them
| when I don't fully remember their contents, and I very
| seldom find them unthoughtful.
|
| But who cares? It's not like karma is scarce. Why
| shouldn't people who enjoy it as side banter have that
| joy? The world is hard enough as it is without punishing
| completely harmless fun.
| frosted-flakes wrote:
| You're overthinking it. It was almost certainly down-voted
| because it was a low effort post that doesn't add much to
| the discussion.
| eyelidlessness wrote:
| It added something for me, which is why I took the time
| and effort to explain why beyond upvoting it.
| Waterluvian wrote:
| I learned Rust by writing a game boy emulator. It always takes
| 100% CPU because that's apparently how VSYNC blocking works in
| SDL or something.
|
| But the actual effect never feels like the computer is
| dragging. Perhaps because multiple cores.
|
| It's better than a "fix 400% CPU usage" commit.
| cozzyd wrote:
| that can only be achieved by uninstalling slack
| lapetitejort wrote:
| However, pegging your CPU at 100% would make your computer seem
| busy, which matches the theme of the plugin.
| dylan604 wrote:
| maybe if you only have a single core CPU. otherwise, pegging
| your CPU at 400% or 800% might feel sluggish
| allenu wrote:
| I love little hacks/projects like this. It's art.
| nabaraz wrote:
| Somehow related, most of my typing on Slack is adding a line
| break because I find messages too close to each other.
|
| -----
| shadeslayer_ wrote:
| Chaotic evil.
| [deleted]
| tunesmith wrote:
| I saw the headline and got excited that someone wrote a modern
| talk/otalk/ytalk program... I miss being able to watch someone
| else's typos when I'm touch-typing.
| dmd wrote:
| I made that! http://typeto.me/
|
| (yes, http. https won't work. sorry. i'll fix it someday.)
|
| also, we would LOVE someone to fork this and/or take it over,
| we really don't have time to maintain it.
| tunesmith wrote:
| Ah so cool! That really took me back.
| hasmolo wrote:
| i'd be interested. how'd you like me to reach out?
| marstall wrote:
| Colin Robinson, the psychic vampire character on the show "What
| We Do In the Shadows", would looooove this tool.
| craigkerstiens wrote:
| Having worked with Will for quite a few years, he has a great
| ability to create some impressive projects like this. Even his
| commit graph on his GitHub (https://github.com/will) has been
| consistent for I think 10 years now?
| lapetitejort wrote:
| Very clever of him to have Friday align with the horizontal
| strokes of W, I, and L. Ready Only Friday manifested.
| shoo wrote:
| consider paying a visit to Will's homepage:
| http://bitfission.com/
|
| Even though the site is under construction, it is still very
| nice, with some enjoyable tunes.
| volkk wrote:
| i clicked back to get back to HN after visiting and the music
| was still playing. oddly enough i didnt hate that.
| rualca wrote:
| Oh dear God...
|
| WEBRING!
|
| I haven't heard that in a while.
|
| I'm starting to have flashbacks, hearing the sound of 56kb
| dialup modems...
| willlll wrote:
| Thank you. please don't try and right click to steal the
| source though
| lloydgrossman wrote:
| Made on mac and doom music. You're an incredible human
| mattgreenrocks wrote:
| You are an incredible webmaster!
| tentacleuno wrote:
| It needs one of those things that alerts anyone who tries
| to right click :) An even better one would be to totally
| preventDefault oncontextmenu. That'll stop them!
| makeworld wrote:
| > It needs one of those things that alerts anyone who
| tries to right click :)
|
| Did you visit the site?
| mcbishop wrote:
| I had a good laugh there, thanks.
| exikyut wrote:
| Wow, so _this_ is the webmaster who maintains Ling 's Cars!
| jaredsohn wrote:
| Make sure you're running Netscape 3.0.
|
| It won't play midi files natively for me in Chrome.
| sam0x17 wrote:
| Will is a legend. He is the epitome of big dick energy on
| GitHub. The sheer audacity of his username being "will", his
| commit graph, the fact that I already knew who he was before
| this was posted on HN... legend...
| stavros wrote:
| > big dick energy
|
| Should I keep fighting against this phrase or is it futile?
| throwaway420y wrote:
| Depends in you're fighting it with big dick energy or not
| astrea wrote:
| On the note of GitHub commit history, incredibly off-topic: I
| hate when potential jobs ask for my github profile (sometimes
| as a strict requirement). All of my (4+ years) profesional work
| has been in private Bitbucket repos so my github is a random
| college project and some community project I did one weekend.
| Should I be feeding the "grind mentality" and contributing to
| open source or doing random side projects to fluff it out? Am I
| the odd one out?
| hop34s3w wrote:
| What is "grind mentality" in this context? Is this common in
| the programming world too?
| jypepin wrote:
| no you're fine without a filled github account. most
| engineers don't write code during their free time and, like
| you, work in private repos for their corporate job.
| seoulmetro wrote:
| No, you shouldn't. It's obvious that any job that "requires"
| this, will not be a job that you want to be in.
|
| I do all my work on private repos. My github looks bare. If
| they want code I'll send them code. If they want my github
| profile, I'll send them that and tell them all my code is
| private, hit me up for it/examples.
| [deleted]
| andjd wrote:
| It's pretty easy to spoof the commit graph on Github like this,
| since Github bases it on user-provided timestamps and does not
| question them.
| lapetitejort wrote:
| Will has a repository just for that:
| https://github.com/will/githubprofilecheat
| sundvor wrote:
| It's covered with commits well into the future :) Love it.
| gruez wrote:
| >Even his commit graph on his GitHub (https://github.com/will)
| has been consistent for I think 10 years now?
|
| umm... https://github.com/will/githubprofilecheat
| craigkerstiens wrote:
| So it has been 10 years :)
| teruakohatu wrote:
| He has pushed 21,383 commits to that repo to keep his commit
| graph looking that good.
|
| Note the few days he had to push commits when they were zero
| commit days.
| Glide wrote:
| It even spells out his first name....
| Kiro wrote:
| I thought that was the whole topic of this conversation.
| skylanh wrote:
| One day Will will while away Will's last wonton day, and a
| scheduled task somewhere will continue this repo.
| sharmin123 wrote:
| How Does A Hacker Hack A Phone? How To Avoid Phone Hacking?:
| https://www.hackerslist.co/how-does-a-hacker-hack-a.../
| Zababa wrote:
| Looking at the repo and the tweet, this should be dated (2018).
| Which would explain a lot of things.
| dkdbejwi383 wrote:
| Which things, specifically?
| notyourwork wrote:
| Specifically that the year is 2021, not 2018.
| intricatedetail wrote:
| Something there is almost worldwide consensus, which is
| remarkable...
| elzbardico wrote:
| How can we be sure dissent is not being censored and
| suppressed by force?
| sva_ wrote:
| Not by a far stretch. I noticed the Thais count from
| Buddha's birth on. Wondered what other cultures do.
| yesbabyyes wrote:
| The Hebrew1 and Byzantine calendars count from Anno
| Mundi, the creation of the world (they don't agree how
| old the world is).
|
| The Juche calendar counts from the birth of Kim Il-sung.
|
| Unix counts from the Epoch.
|
| The Islamic calendar counts from when the prophet
| Muhammad moved from Mecca to Medina.
|
| The Ab urbe condita counts from the foundation of the
| City (i.e. Rome).
|
| There are many, many more:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_era
|
| 1 Since Maimonides, before that it was from the
| destruction of the temple.
|
| (Edit: Formatting).
| erik_seaberg wrote:
| I enjoyed Vinge's future history:
|
| > Take the Traders' method of timekeeping. The frame
| corrections were incredibly complex - and down at the
| very bottom of it was a little program that ran a
| counter. Second by second, the Qeng Ho counted from the
| instant that a human had first set foot on Old Earth's
| moon. But if you looked at it still more closely ... the
| starting instant was actually about fifteen million
| seconds later, the 0-second of one of Humankind's first
| computer operating systems.
| vidarh wrote:
| His descriptions of layers on layers of ancient code
| still running in that far future setting is somehow one
| of the most horrifying things I've read in scifi.
| chaorace wrote:
| [citation needed]
| Zababa wrote:
| It's intended as a joke, because I've seen this happen
| (someone typing when I am, stopping when I stop) a lot.
| dang wrote:
| Ok, we'll put that up there.
| thatguy0900 wrote:
| Out of curiosity, how is is that you see these comments?
| dang wrote:
| That time I just saw it while browsing the thread. There's
| no systematic way. But if you want to be sure we see
| something, you can always email hn@ycombinator.com.
| Sebb767 wrote:
| HN has a few non-public mods, so probably one pings him if
| he doesn't find it himself.
|
| But I personally prefer the explanation that dang is
| omniscient ;)
| brigandish wrote:
| s/explanation/truth,/ ;)
| Zababa wrote:
| Thanks!
| itisit wrote:
| Presence awareness is an insidious overreach IMO. Warms my heart
| to see petty rebelliousness automated in this way. I'd also like
| to see something that edits the same Slack message ad nauseam
| with banal remarks.
| Johnny555 wrote:
| I dunno, I find the typing notification useful in group
| discussions so I know that coworker A is about to say something
| (and I know that she's going to make the exact same point I was
| going to make).
|
| I find active/non-active presence helpful so I know whether or
| not to expect a reply soon.
| anyfoo wrote:
| I've been talking to friends every day, for what amounts to
| decades now, over chat tools that don't show when anyone is
| typing. In contrast to e.g. the tools at work that do, I feel
| like the interactions we have not only don't suffer from not
| seeing who is typing, but generally feel "easier" to me.
| There is no "oh I was about to type but now you're typing so
| I'll stop typing", or "I started typing but on second thought
| I don't have anything to add right now (or maybe I was
| interrupted) and now you're waiting for me", or any of that
| tired stuff.
| itisit wrote:
| I prefer to communicate asynchronously via text to keep
| myself and others focused on work. People become
| surprisiginly resourceful when they no longer expect or rely
| on realtime (or near to it) replies. To each their own, of
| course.
| Johnny555 wrote:
| That's what makes Slack presence so useful, I pause my
| notifications when I don't want to be interrupted -- others
| can see that in my presence (but if they really need me,
| they can choose to notify me anyway). So I can stay heads-
| down and work, but if something important happens, I'm
| still reachable. And at least in my company, people don't
| abuse do not disturb.
|
| Plus, I never need to wonder if it's safe to send a message
| to a coworker for their timezone "George is in Germany, am
| I going to wake him up if I send me a message now?" I can
| rely on him setting notifications appropriately.
| dllthomas wrote:
| I added a loading indicator emoji that I use if I want to
| respond to something but it's going to take a bit.
| dilap wrote:
| Yeah, I've realized _nothing good_ ever comes from knowing when
| someone else is typing. As this rather extreme example
| illustrates.
| riversflow wrote:
| Why? You can easily tell if someone is paying attention if they
| are talking in person. This seems really selfish to me, I
| personally find it one of the best modern chat features. Then
| again, I grew up with it and have learned to be zen about
| several minutes of typing... followed by "k"
| itisit wrote:
| > You can easily tell if someone is paying attention if they
| are talking in person. This seems really selfish to me
|
| Privacy and concentration are selfish interests? Why not have
| a 9-5 webcam of yourself feeding into my surveillance
| dashboard? This way I can see my team hard at work as I would
| in an open office. They'll love that.
|
| The prior in-person work setup is not the ideal nor the
| standard. I don't need or expect others to pay attention to
| what I'm saying right when I'm saying it unless there's real
| urgency. We're all IP-enabled meat functions now; there's no
| going back.
| bentcorner wrote:
| Pidgin has a feature that notifies you when someone starts
| typing at you or goes from "Away" to "Online". Kind of weirds
| people out when you message them _just_ before they message
| you, or you message them the instant they sit down at their PC.
| throwaway287391 wrote:
| > Kind of weirds people out when ... you message them the
| instant they sit down at their PC.
|
| I miss the AIM days when you'd hear the "door opening" sound
| when someone signed on. It was totally normal to immediately
| ping someone then because signing onto AIM was asking to be
| pinged. And that sound made your heart skip a beat because it
| might be the girl you like and she might even IM you first :o
| seoulmetro wrote:
| MSN user here. Feigning a sign in and out was a good way to
| start a conversation with someone without looking like you
| wanted to talk to them first. i.e. crush, gf, friend you're
| not so close with.
| jedberg wrote:
| "Everyone loves it so far and doesn't find it annoying at all!"
| teeray wrote:
| Cool, now I want one that will suppress these so I can write in
| peace without the other person wondering why it's taking me so
| long to write.
| tyingq wrote:
| As a chrome extension, but the source gives you some idea what
| to tweak...
|
| https://github.com/andrewconner/slack-hide-typing/blob/maste...
| lopatin wrote:
| You wrote code for with the only potential benefit of
| (successfully) making us lol. All I have to offer is an upvote.
| caramelazimuth wrote:
| The person who invented the "is typing" feature:
|
| https://slate.com/technology/2014/02/typing-indicator-in-cha...
| Aachen wrote:
| MSN in 1999 was the first according to the person who made it
| for Microsoft, David Auerbach.
|
| > the feature was well-received and soon copied by AOL and
| Yahoo, the other two big IM forces back then.
|
| No big insights about typing indicators in the article, though,
| e.g no user research was done or anything.
|
| Near the bottom of the article is an interesting bit about
| messengers showing the message, not just a typing indicator, in
| realtime. I guess people nowadays (I certainly would) think of
| it as something Google tried, but it sounds like this predates
| MSN. The author says they prefer that over typing indicators.
| vidarh wrote:
| > guess people nowadays (I certainly would) think of it as
| something Google tried, but it sounds like this predates MSN.
| The author says they prefer that over typing indicators.
|
| "talk" which he describes dates back to the early 80's, but
| there were predecessors on systems predating Unix as well
| long before that.
| binwiederhier wrote:
| Since we're talking about stupid Slack bots, I feel compelled to
| mention my stupid bot: REPLbot [1] is a Slack/Discord bot for
| running interactive REPLs and shells from a chat.
|
| It is fun and marginally useful. It supports sharing your own
| terminal in Slack too.
|
| [1] https://github.com/binwiederhier/replbot
| maddyboo wrote:
| That's not stupid, that's really cool!
| danielandrews43 wrote:
| My slack bot is a dictionary for acronyms at work
| https://tryplayground.slack.com/apps/AKCHPAYCC-acronym-bot
| amerine wrote:
| Ahhhh one of my favs humans. Hahha. If you get a chance to work
| with him, jump on it!!
| fdr wrote:
| My favorite WillSoft so far is his emoji film renderer.
| https://youtu.be/v32XHJxljKI?t=876
| alex_c wrote:
| This is pure, distilled, 100% evil. I love it.
| colordrops wrote:
| Does this also make your status green?
| don-code wrote:
| While I do appreciate the humor here, it's a personal gripe that
| conversations on Slack tend to optimize towards speed of
| responses - and when taken to an extreme, they take the form of:
|
| > This message
|
| > is
|
| > sent over a few lines
|
| (awkward pause)
|
| > so that
|
| > I can get in a point
|
| > before you start typing something
|
| Asynchronous means of communication (Github PRs, Jira tickets,
| dare I say e-mails) mean that I submit a fully-formed thought as
| a digest, but Slack sometimes becomes a stream of consciousness -
| one that I have trouble breaking someone out of.
| k__ wrote:
| While your example is clearly a strawman, I have to admit I
| tend to many short messages on chats.
|
| It's not email, there is someone sitting on the other side who
| waits, so I give them something to read. When I call them, they
| also hear what I say when I say it and not after the whole
| message is complete.
| lrvick wrote:
| I for one prefer stream of consciousness in chat.
|
| That is the point of chat.
|
| If I want structured longform discourse I use mailing lists.
| e-clinton wrote:
| If I have to read it, I'd rather you take your time thinking
| about what you are writing. For voice or video, stream of
| consciousness works well.
| Talanes wrote:
| And if I am waiting for a reply, I would rather you spit
| out what you're saying rather than waste my time waiting
| for you to say it prettier.
|
| No communication heuristic will be perfect.
| lrvick wrote:
| So much this. I would rather people spit it out than
| agonize word smithing with me.
|
| I don't know why people treat text as different from
| speaking.
|
| I read much faster than most people can speak though so I
| consider stream of consciousness in text as way less
| demanding than doing it in a meeting.
| scbrg wrote:
| > if I am waiting
|
| Just don't. It's still asynchronous.
| tharkun__ wrote:
| There's a balance. Like the example the OP gave is
| abysmal. I do not want that. Have one or two actual
| sentences and send it, if we're in an actual live
| conversation. If you can't type that fast enough, take a
| typing course.
|
| If we're not actively talking, write the whole damn
| paragraph before you send it! One thing I really dislike
| is: > Hey, how's going?
|
| ... some time later ... > Can I ask you
| a question on $TOPIC?
|
| ...
|
| Will not get an answer from me. Well maybe once, if we've
| never talked before and that will be along the lines of
| "just go ahead and ask, don't bother with the chit chat".
| Most people 'get' this nowadays but there are some hold-
| outs. I suppose the hold-outs might be more numerous in
| non-tech companies or in the non-tech departments of
| those companies.
| greedy_buffer wrote:
| You're not alone with this specific gripe. Some of my
| colleagues include sites similar to https://nohello.net
| in their staff directory page.
| phone8675309 wrote:
| I tend to find the best response to any chat message that
| boils down to "Hey, can I ask you a question?" is "You
| just did."
| wing-_-nuts wrote:
| The worst is when I ignore their preamble, waiting on the
| question and the other person turns around and shoots an
| email to my manager, cc'ing me and saying 'so and so was
| away, do you know who I might ask about x?'. Like, no, I
| was just waiting for you to get to the point!
| c22 wrote:
| Man, I'm the complete opposite. It's pretty much
| instantaneous for me to read (or not really read) a few
| words on a screen, but if you're droning on in the video
| chat or on the phone, god help us.
| bostonsre wrote:
| Conversations are fine as long as messages contain complete
| thoughts that merit a response. Saying hey in one message,
| then typing and then sending the message does no one any
| good, all it does is interrupt the receiver and force a
| context switch before you can run any instructions/respond.
| c22 wrote:
| I remember on ICQ I used to like to use the mode where you
| saw each character your partner typed. Google Wave was
| satisfying in that way too.
| SamPatt wrote:
| Some data modes on ham radio work like this. You can even
| see them fix typos over the air.
|
| Lots of fun.
| bqmjjx0kac wrote:
| Live typing would really trip me up. I'd probably wind up
| drafting my messages in a text editor and pasting them
| in.
| jon-wood wrote:
| I have no ideas how many times I'd have been fired if
| Slack did this. Let's just say my first pass on a message
| in the heat of the moment can sometimes be less than
| professional.
| lrvick wrote:
| When talking in person over some beers that is exactly
| what you get.
|
| I talk to people in chat like I would IRL.
|
| Personally I only like working with people that don't
| feel they need a filter. I sure don't have one.
|
| I find it is easier to trust people that say what they
| think and feel as they think and feel it.
|
| If you think "this code is an insecure joke and I keep
| trying to convince myself why we should not scrap it all
| and start over", then say it.
|
| I said that to a CEO once and he admitted he wrote most
| of that code, thanked me for my candor, and agreed it
| should be rewritten given how important it had become.
| grimgrin wrote:
| I wonder if the OP is referring to channels versus DMs? Also
| this is maybe a huge culture thing at least regarding
| "inherited channel etiquette"
|
| In a DM I am _for sure_ stream of consciousness
|
| edit: also in a #red channel
| lrvick wrote:
| I am the same in channels or DMs, with the only exception
| being alert channels that need to be on topic and low
| noise.
| matsemann wrote:
| https://nohello.net/
| Recurecur wrote:
| Ha, someone on my project does exactly that...it never occurred
| to me it might be for perceived speed, I just figured ADHD...
| :^)
| dangerface wrote:
| Chat is for conversations it should be a back and forth, if you
| don't like that choose a method of communication that isn't a
| conversation.
| isoprophlex wrote:
| I on the other hand don't enjoy people who write paragraph upon
| paragraph in a single message. Its chat. Just quickly hammer
| off your stream of consciousness rambling into the chat; send
| an email otherwise.
|
| Look at it this way, they're gonna make their point anyway. The
| sooner you know the better ;)
| wruza wrote:
| Sending message after message with no complete point until
| last one is like holding a mutex to the person's attention.
| Annoyance, there is no other way to look at it.
| dukeyukey wrote:
| As long as it's asynchronous I'm fine with people doing
| this. It's coworkers who go "Hello dukeyukey" and pause is
| what annoys me. Being polite is great, but let me know what
| you want before I decide to drop what I'm working on to
| chat about it.
| johannes1234321 wrote:
| even worth is
|
| A: Hello @B!
|
| ... waiting ...
|
| B: yeah, what's up?
|
| A: how are you?
|
| B: fine, what's up?
|
| A: i have a question
|
| B: ... okay ...
|
| A: (now the real question comes, whuch then requires lots
| of clarification ...)
|
| B: yes (or "no" and thst's the full answer needed)
| [deleted]
| Macha wrote:
| Yeah
|
| "Yt?"
|
| "Yes"
|
| "Coworker is typing..." for 20 minutes
|
| The above is a way more frustrating interaction because
| it feels that now the coworker feels I'm obligated to
| respond to a much longer query than I had anticipated.
| I'd expected a short query which I could either answer
| offhand or evaluate its priority to indicate if I had
| time to handle it. Instead I now need to let someone down
| that after 20 minutes of explaining their problem, I
| actually don't have the time or info to help them debug
| their CI build.
|
| It's gotten to the point that I simply stopped answering
| these naked hellos/yt questions.
| ulrikrasmussen wrote:
| I turn off typing indications and also don't send my status to
| the server for the same reason. I've never liked them, and
| actually have always felt that they were a bit invasive. Why
| should the other party know that I typed up something and then
| decided not to send it?
| 1123581321 wrote:
| There's Slo, which is a slow mode admin plugin for Slack. I
| wish it were baked in like Discord's slow mode (hopefully it
| exist in Slack and someone will correct me.)
|
| I agree it's really poor etiquette to make the view scroll for
| no reason and to make it hard for others to participate. It's
| fine in DMs or _maybe_ with 3-4 likeminded people, but in
| anything meant for wider reading or participation it 's rude
| (usually unintentionally) and counterproductive. Fortunately,
| since it's not intentionally rude, it's not a big deal to teach
| that good middle ground.
| bostonsre wrote:
| It is pretty annoying when people pause like that. I don't see
| why they can't buffer their writes until they get a complete
| thought (Saying "hey", then typing the next message is the
| worst).
|
| It isn't fully asynchronous if notifications are enabled. With
| notifications, you are more like a single cpu server that has
| to handle hardware interrupts for disk/network io. It stops you
| from working and forces context switching, only people aren't
| as good at context switching.
| Emanation wrote:
| Ha. I do this. It's emotional energy. Lacking seriousness or
| im too preoccupied with how my reply will be understood or
| not.
|
| Granted, I dont think I ever stopped at 'hey-'
| cto_of_antifa wrote:
| Yup. And tolerating coworkers who do it is just part of
| being an empathetic human who puts team communication as a
| priority without being needlessly hostile. I've worked with
| many developers like that, and no matter how great the
| code, dealing with them was always tedious as hell.
| the_gipsy wrote:
| Someone should write a bot like the gp that autoreplies "hey,
| how is your day going so far?" to a single "hey" line.
| jacobsenscott wrote:
| Even worse is people who type "hey", and then don't type
| anything else until you "hey" back.
|
| Even worse is "Hey, I want to talk about something. I'll call
| you in 30 minutes."
| wruza wrote:
| _Saying "hey", then typing the next message is the worst_
|
| You don't have colleagues who type "hey" and then wait for
| your reply, do you?
| jerf wrote:
| "Saying "hey", then typing the next message is the worst"
|
| Pro-tip if you're one of those: If you look at the slack
| interface, there's not a lot of visual difference between two
| messages in a row, and a single message separated by two
| newlines (SHIFT-Enter if you don't know how to enter those).
|
| It looks exactly the same to type "Hey.\n\nJust wanted to
| check up on the status of the de-fooification project. How's
| that going?" as it is to send those as two separate messages,
| it looks just as polite on the screen, and it's way less
| annoying.
| bostonpete wrote:
| Not relevant for your "Hey" example but I often do submit
| successive thoughts as separate messages rather than one
| less disruptive message because it allows readers to add
| reactions/responses to the individual thoughts.
| vidarh wrote:
| > Saying "hey", then typing the next message is the worst
|
| "hey" [waits for a response; then a long pause and
| agonisingly slow typing after you've said hey back]
|
| "Can I ask you a question?" [waits for a response]
| [agonisingly slow typing coupled with intermittent pauses].
|
| Always makes me want to yell at people to just ask their damn
| question.
| sundvor wrote:
| Hey Don-Code
| sundvor wrote:
| (made a coffee, put out the bins whilst I had your imaginary
| attention)
|
| .. I completely agree with what you wrote. Just please skip
| the niceties and write the whole request in one message.
| Prefix with the greeting! And any follow up details can go in
| a thread.
| Jensson wrote:
| Usually it doesn't look like that, the first part is self
| contained and the remaining are small additions that they
| figured out in the moment. If you tell people to stop doing
| that then all that will happen is that they wont write those
| clarifications.
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