[HN Gopher] It's tough being an Azure fan
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It's tough being an Azure fan
Author : ealexhudson
Score : 23 points
Date : 2021-09-22 15:43 UTC (1 days ago)
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| mistrial9 wrote:
| >> Conclusion -- I'll still continue to use Azure, but the
| proposition is becoming weaker
|
| I do appreciate the detailed list of current failings, to add to
| my own systemic rejection of this system based on their
| management objectives
|
| you are under an illusion, you are REQUIRED to use it in service
| of The Company
| redwood wrote:
| The tech is definitely third tier. And if you ever need to
| actually talk to someone over there, it's a nightmare.
| aabaker99 wrote:
| I work at a large company but I find Azure wants to talk to us
| too much.
| ishjoh wrote:
| It always depends on your scale. I was at a company that had
| a month spend in the 6 figures and they wanted to constantly
| talk. A different company I was at the spend was 3 figures a
| month, and we couldn't get any help at all, even knowing some
| internal folks in different areas of the company.
| CosmicShadow wrote:
| I was all in on Azure for years, but once my BizSpark wore off
| and died I was shocked at how expensive it was to run the most
| trivial side project or seedling of an idea or non-money making
| project.
|
| As a .NET full stack web dev for like 14 years, I finally decided
| to put all my new learnings into just doing static sites on React
| and trying to figure out some AWS stuff because I wasn't going to
| try and use .NET on AWS when I had it so fairly figured out on
| Azure.
|
| For a serial entrepreneur and maker, it just couldn't cut it
| anymore. Now I do NextJS on Vercel with minimal extra services
| out of what they provide and I get way faster stuff for free
| pretty much and I guess I'm no longer the only .NET guy
| struggling to hold the fort in a big tech community that also
| thinks .NET is too old or boring or non-sexy.
|
| I still do like Azure better than AWS. The stupid, weird UX is
| still nicer than AWS. The docs by MS are 1000x better than
| everything on AWS. I miss MSSQL and the SQL Server Management
| Studio, but I don't miss the cost for scaling it enough to
| actually use it for scraping or data processing.
|
| I tried to sell friends on Azure and even got a part time gig
| from MS themselves to try and help local startups use it, but no
| one cared or was interested. It just doesn't have that same
| "standard" or "sexyness" or "built into every new tech" feel to
| it, so I doubt it'll ever really change or pull ahead in
| comparison.
| NoNameProvided wrote:
| We use Azure at work and this article hit home hard. As we just
| have been burned recently by Azure pricing. I am in the same spot
| as the author: liking Azure but being put off by all the weird
| stuff sometimes they are doing.
|
| In our case, all we wanted was a static IP in front of an Azure
| Container Instance. Easy right? Let's put the container in a
| vNET, place a NAT Gateway in front of it and we are done.
| However, for some reason NAT Gateway is not supported for
| Container instances, instead, the official documentation suggests
| setting up an Azure managed firewall in front of your container
| that starts at a whopping 600EUR/month. That is a steep price
| increase from your ~30ish EUR/month for a basic container
| instance and it doesn't seem to be any other official
| alternative.
|
| I have opened an issue with the docs team [1] about it and I hope
| there is another way of doing this that doesn't incur a doubling
| of our Azure monthly spending.
|
| [1]: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/azure-docs/issues/81274
| JohnFen wrote:
| I have a funny story about Azure. Our company was looking for a
| cloud provider, and Microsoft sent a couple of salespeople to
| talk to us about theirs. Their salespeople were very
| condescending, talking like they'd be doing us a favor by
| allowing us to become customers and failing to take any of our
| questions and concerns seriously.
|
| I think it's because we aren't a large corporation in terms of
| headcount.
|
| In any case, that meeting ensured that no further consideration
| of Azure would take place, and it's very unlikely that it would
| be considered in the future.
| jorams wrote:
| > I'll still continue to use Azure
|
| And this is the actual problem. Azure doesn't compete on quality.
| Microsoft rarely does. They have a few products and a market
| position that make them the default choice for countless
| customers. Nobody punishes them for their failings as long as the
| feature boxes keep being checked, and so the cycle continues.
| reducesuffering wrote:
| Azure is and will continue to creep into GitHub. Pretty sure my
| new projects will be on GitLab now just to get a headstart on
| using who the cutting edge service is a few years from now.
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