[HN Gopher] NTSB says Tesla must address 'basic safety issues' w...
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NTSB says Tesla must address 'basic safety issues' with semi-
autonomous features
Author : fortran77
Score : 13 points
Date : 2021-09-19 21:07 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.engadget.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.engadget.com)
| SlipperySlope wrote:
| Wikipedia: "In 1996 and 1997, Homendy worked as a government
| relations manager at the American Iron and Steel Institute. From
| 1997 to 1999, she was a legislative representative for the AFL-
| CIO Transportation Trades Department. From 1999 to 2004, she was
| a legislative representative for the International Brotherhood of
| Teamsters. From 2004 to 2018, she was a Democratic staff member
| for the United States House Transportation Subcommittee on
| Railroads, Pipelines, and Hazardous Materials.[5] In 2018, she
| was appointed as a member of the National Transportation Safety
| Board. On May 19, 2021, it was announced that Homendy would be
| nominated to serve as chair of the NTSB.[6]"
|
| Given that Tesla will put many autoworkers out of a job due to
| fewer components in electric vehicles, and given that Full Self
| Drive when perfected will put many Teamsters out of a job, its
| easy to predict NTSB obstacles to Telsa innovations.
|
| Good for NTSB however to publicly advocate that autonomous
| vehicles will be safe when eventually available.
| josephcsible wrote:
| In most Autopilot-related incidents, wasn't the driver somehow
| intentionally defeating safety features, such as by hanging a
| weight on the steering wheel? IMO, if you knowingly and
| intentionally defeat any safety system, you should be 100% on the
| hook for anything that happens that the safety system might have
| prevented, no matter how misleading any messaging may be.
| theluketaylor wrote:
| No, the issues NTSB was looking into stem from Tesla's terrible
| stationary object detection. 10+ people using autopilot as
| directed have plowed into the back of stopped emergency
| services vehicles.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| NTHSA requested docs on this issue from 12 automakers in
| total, as all of their emergency braking systems have this
| limitation.
|
| https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-
| ask...
| rastafang wrote:
| > In most Autopilot-related incidents, wasn't the driver
| somehow intentionally defeating safety features, such as by
| hanging a weight on the steering wheel?
|
| It is full-auto-pilot... so it shouldn't be an issue. But
| either way, I don't think that it was the case in most
| malfunctions.
| Andys wrote:
| But is it? Tesla insist that you be ready to take over
| driving at any time
| josephcsible wrote:
| > It is full-auto-pilot... so it shouldn't be an issue.
|
| That's not how autopilot works even in planes, and Tesla
| makes it very clear that you need to pay attention before it
| lets you enable it for the first time.
| rastafang wrote:
| So full-auto-pilot (Tesla) is the same as auto-pilot
| (planes) and also the same as not-auto-pilot (English)
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