[HN Gopher] Project Deluge: Xbox and Dreamcast
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Project Deluge: Xbox and Dreamcast
Author : crtasm
Score : 107 points
Date : 2021-09-19 12:15 UTC (10 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (hiddenpalace.org)
| someonehere wrote:
| I still remember getting my Dreamcast and getting Sega GT. My
| friends were playing Gran Turismo and I had Sega GT and boy I
| loved it more than Gran Turismo.
| Grazester wrote:
| I played Sega GT and hated it. I thought the controls weren't
| great and the graphics bad compared to it's counterparts.
|
| I thought the true gems were Test Drive Lemans and Ferrari 355
| challenge. Test Drive Lemans was a Great racing game with some
| of the best graphics on the Dreamcast. IGN did a story on it
| back in 2001 I believe and the Melbourne studio said they
| programmed it in Assembly to extract as much as they could out
| of the Dreamcast. F355 was not slouch either. There are other
| great racing games on the Dreamcast but I can't personally say
| Sega GT was one of them.
| jdhn wrote:
| >Ferrari 355 challenge
|
| Didn't they basically take the arcade version and put it on a
| disc? I vaguely remember reading somewhere that the arcade
| hardware was very similar to the Dreamcasts hardware so it
| took comparatively very little effort to port it over.
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| themodelplumber wrote:
| Sega GT was so fun. I found an easy way to make loads of cash
| early on, and by the time I had to actually improve my driving
| skills, I was far more interested in discovering and ranking
| the easiest ways to drive a kei car to financial glory
| DataCrayon wrote:
| The Dreamcast was great for racing games - particularly arcade
| racers too!
|
| The last one I remember buying was Metropolis Street Racer -
| good fun.
|
| If you haven't checked it out, give Tokyo Xtreme Racer a look
| laumars wrote:
| I'm of the opposite opinion. I hated MSR, it's looked cool
| but the all the tracks seemed to have stupid right angle
| bends.
|
| I found most of the Dreamcast racers seem to fall short in
| significant ways. Whereas the Saturn had games with more
| polish. Which is weird because the Saturn was not a good
| console for fast 3D graphics, technically speaking. Manx TT
| is up there as one of the best motorcycle racers imo
| DataCrayon wrote:
| I vaguely remember the right angle bends - but don't
| remember taking issue with them. Though - I was much
| younger and perhaps not as critical! Manx TT SuperBike was
| good
| lostgame wrote:
| Hidden Palace never ceases to amaze me with its sheer dedication
| to the discovery and preservation of prototypes such as these.
|
| I've been following Hidden Palace since the first releases; and
| am very impressed on how they've grown.
| geon wrote:
| How did they get access to all those prototypes?
| Lammy wrote:
| Burned media (e.g. GD-Rs) prototypes tend to show up on eBay
| from time to time, but there's a lot of private selling going
| on too in forums like https://www.obscuregamers.com/builddb/
|
| With Dreamcast and Xbox you can also find builds on the
| internal HDD of the development kits from the last time they
| were used. That's one of the things that makes Katanas/XDKs
| sell for so much.
| DataCrayon wrote:
| Amazing work! The Dreamcast was and is my favourite console, I
| still have many great memories from having it all those years
| ago. So much so that I made this [1] when messing about with
| D3.js
|
| It's mentioned in the article, but it's great that the emulation
| of original Xbox games has improved such that many games are now
| playable. I remember checking back every year to see if I could
| finally play Jet Set Radio Future (JSRF), and one day eventually
| being able to get in the game and play! It's hinted in the
| article but I look forward to the day when JSRF has better
| emulation. They've done great work to get it this far already!
|
| It's a shame JSRF wasn't re-released on Steam like JSR... also a
| shame that they couldn't use the original soundtrack when re-
| releasing Crazy Taxi, so I still prefer to emulate on Dreamcast
| despite owning it on Steam.
|
| [1] https://datacrayon.com/posts/visualisation/visualisation-
| wit...
| jdhn wrote:
| What I'd love to see is a reissue of Phantasy Star Online. I
| loved that game, and it was super ahead for its time. Sadly,
| PSO2 seems to have really strayed away from the originals
| formula.
| DataCrayon wrote:
| PSO was one of my first online gaming experiences! I spent
| many hours on that game. I was even NOL'd and had to start
| again!
|
| Have you seen PSO2 received a new update, "New Genesis", that
| changes the game entirely? Supposedly it is more like a PSO3.
| Like you say, PSO2 and the new update don't feel like PSO -
| but I think that old formula does not appeal to the current
| majority of gamers... so we are out of luck. Besides that, I
| unfortunately don't have that kind of time to commit anymore!
| null-shell wrote:
| I keep my original Xbox just to play JSRF still, but I would
| like to play it in HD someday. Bomb Rush Cyberfunk is looking
| real good though as a spiritual successor if you haven't seen
| it yet.
| bhj wrote:
| Also have an original Xbox but it's a v1.6, in which MS
| managed to break JSRF and a few other games due to using a
| different video encoding chip. Very annoying (though on the
| plus side, no leaking clock capacitor). Thanks for pointing
| out BRC.
| DataCrayon wrote:
| Sold on the Xbox a long time ago - back when I regularly
| moved from flat to flat it became a hassle to take all that
| stuff with me! I'll check out Bomb Rush Cyberfunk, thanks for
| the tip!
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