[HN Gopher] Gimp 2.10.28
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Gimp 2.10.28
Author : marcodiego
Score : 107 points
Date : 2021-09-18 14:33 UTC (8 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.gimp.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.gimp.org)
| h2odragon wrote:
| > Very slow file dialogs: it used to happen when network devices
| were slow or unavailable, or pluggable devices disconnected, or
| even because of fake floppy drives configured in the BIOS. GLib
| was using an inappropriate Windows API to get some information
| about drives. This has been fixed!
|
| Cool! I think that bug helped me get my wife to accept an Ubuntu
| install instead of trying to stick with Win7 last year; it had
| caused her enough pain to notice, apparently. She mentioned "it
| doesn't grovel when I swap flash cards" specifically after the
| switch.
| willis936 wrote:
| Windows hates slow disks in general. When I've had a dying HDD
| just plugged in, even when that HDD is never accessed, Windows
| comes to a crawl. The same system booted into Ubuntu is smooth.
| marcodiego wrote:
| I think SSD is now a requirement for smooth windows usage.
| hall0ween wrote:
| What a fantastic tool.
| reginold wrote:
| Post on funding for GIMP developers:
| https://www.gimp.org/news/2021/07/27/support-gimp-developers...
| hitekker wrote:
| > What these donations through GNOME still cannot do is
| funding paid development, so if that's what you want, please
| fund the developers directly as explained above. GIMP project
| obviously welcomes the 2 types of donation, for community
| needs through GNOME and for paid development through the 2
| crowdfundings listed.
|
| Well, that's confusing. It's unfortunate they were unable to
| work out an agreement with the GNOME foundation for
| donations. https://krita.org/en/support-us/donations/ or
| https://fund.krita.org/ looks way more straightforward.
| Andrex wrote:
| > You may have noticed that GIMP 2.10.24's macOS DMG was released
| months late. Even this only happened because Jehan spent days to
| fix the build on the remote build server, bit by bit, without any
| local access to a macOS machine, nor any ways to run and test
| himself.
|
| Anyone here want to pool some money and send this guy a Mac Mini
| off eBay or something?
| reginold wrote:
| For those more familiar with GIMP, can you share what you love
| about it? I'm assuming most people think of it as a "open-source-
| but-less-good photoshop". Would like to hear from fans.
|
| edit: reading this thread
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25174686
|
| Also curious about PhotoGIMP, focused on a better UI
| chuckdotis wrote:
| I haven't used Photoshop in about decade, but there isn't many
| reasons why I use it over Photoshop other than it works on
| Linux, I don't have to pay a subscription fee, it's not as
| bloated and resource heavy, and it just works. In fact, I'm
| much more familiar with GIMP than Photoshop. I'm not a
| designer/illustrator by any means, but the times I've had to
| edit photos for whatever reason or do bulk conversion, GIMP did
| the job well and there's a community providing support.
| scoopdewoop wrote:
| I've been using GIMP since at least middle school. I learned
| about color, layers, opacity, paths, etc all from GIMP. It has
| always been free, available, and it doesn't change too fast. I
| have used photoshop for advanced features (CMYK halftoning),
| but that never comes up for me often enough to subscribe.
|
| Having learned on GIMP, its super easy to me. I have a hard
| time understanding what could be better just because I am so
| used to it.
| pvaldes wrote:
| Everything and the pluggins
|
| (but Imagemagick is also great).
| ducktective wrote:
| I only use its "auto white balance" feature...I don't know how
| to do this with imagemagick as good as GIMP.
| marcodiego wrote:
| I simply don't know or care if it is better or not than
| photoshop. I never used photoshop, I can't even compare. All I
| can say is that it has always been good enough for whatever I
| needed.
| prox wrote:
| It's good there is a Gimp, but it's idiosyncratic UI is a real
| hindrance for me. So Affinity Photo is my go to tool these
| days.
| npteljes wrote:
| I use it mainly because I love FOSS. Looking at what sets it
| apart technologically, I really like two plugins: Liquid
| Rescale and Resynthesizer (Heal Selection), the very wide
| support of formats, including niches like the windows icon
| format, and the fact that I can use it everywhere legally.
| bloolizard wrote:
| I don't have to pay $15/month.
| paulryanrogers wrote:
| This was the issue for me even before the subscription model.
| I realized that any FOSS I learned could be taught and given
| to friends and family at no cost. Photoshop Elements can fill
| that niche too, though paying anything for software is
| becoming an uphill battle with some demographics.
| hitekker wrote:
| I like that it inspired Krita. Those folks really seem to be
| listening to users; working hard to build highly demanded
| features without navel-gazing or bike-shedding.
|
| For those who haven't seen it before, check
| https://krita.org/en/ out!
| Andrex wrote:
| I checked it out and could not wrap my head around Krita tbh.
| It feels very powerful but focused on solving many different
| problems, of which photo-manipulation is only one of them.
|
| I need to take another look and give it another try, I don't
| think I'm done with Krita yet, but it's not a replacement for
| Gimp yet (as far as I'm concerned.) There's some beauty in
| having focus.
| Rd6n6 wrote:
| I tried gimp, and still use it sometimes, but switched to
| affinity photo mostly because the smart select tool was so much
| better, and the Ux was a lot smoother. Faster too. They are
| basically the same program in a lot of ways and if I'm on Linux
| (I dual boot) I do use gimp sometimes still. You will spend
| some time on YouTube trying to figure out how to do things but
| there are a lot of good short videos to get you moving
|
| On a related note, I used kdenlive (video editing) the other
| day and it was a really good experience, smoother and faster
| than a paid editor I used to use
| marcodiego wrote:
| Kdenlive reached a good enough level of maturity in features
| and stability. Very nice editor nowadays.
| Andrex wrote:
| After 15 years, I'm just used to it.
|
| Gimp was _usable_ before the same-window toggle (introduced
| about 2010?), but when they added that I stopped looking at
| competitors tbh. I wish certain things in Gimp weren't so
| kludgy (mainly basic stuff like dropdowns and dialogs), but
| Photoshop isn't perfect underneath its slick-looking UI either.
|
| That said, I use and kinda adore Premiere, so I'm losing the
| Adobe "synergy" by not using Photoshop. I still can do
| everything I want or need to do in Gimp, and I admittedly don't
| do anything advanced.
|
| Paint.NET sufficed for a little while but Gimp hits that great
| middle ground for me personally between too-simple and too-
| powerful.
|
| Gimp moves so slowly that I personally can't wait for
| downstream forks like PhotoGIMP to pick up updates, so I've
| always tried to stick to the latest official stable release. I
| love reading new updates hit the front of HN, usually means a
| meaty release. :)
| [deleted]
| mistrial9 wrote:
| a clever friend once said it this way, while I was complaining
| about the GIMP interface. He said "Adobe spent years refining
| the small details of Photoshop, and GIMP must not copy PS, so
| therefore all the GIMP interface parts will feel terrible, by
| default"
|
| of course this is humorous oversimplification, but I can't help
| but think of it every time I really, really need a general
| editor, open GIMP and immediately start cursing over ordinary
| thing.
|
| source: I wrote the third color paint app for the Mac II thirty
| years ago while a contractor at Apple Inc.
| p0nce wrote:
| Is it Stockhold syndrome? After years of GIMP I really
| disliked the Affinity interface, also it is unusably slow on
| a very recent computer here. I kinda like GIMP, the good
| parts.
| klondike_klive wrote:
| Is that an egg-corn? ie an mishearing of a well-known
| phrase in a way that makes total sense? Stockhold syndrome
| - it's like Stockholm syndrome but you're cheerleading for
| companies with crappy products only because you own stock.
| mrj wrote:
| There's no limit on copying from PS, but it wouldn't make
| sense to trash the current user base to try to acquire those
| used to PS. Then it would be the Gimp users who feel upset.
| RubyRidgeRandy wrote:
| Something that others might not be aware of - Gimp could be a
| lot better by now, but Adobe actually has patents on features
| that cannot be included into Gimp, including certain UI
| elements. So there is a limit on what Gimp can do, not
| because of competency, but because of legality.
| luegen wrote:
| Is there by any chance a list of software patents that
| Adobe or other companies hold that GIMP cannot implement
| for this reason?
| ryantgtg wrote:
| My clever take is that complaining about GIMP's UI is just a
| meme at this point.
|
| I could easily complain about Photoshop or Illustrator's UI
| just as much as GIMP or Inkscape.
| rastafang wrote:
| v2.99+ is also pretty nice... aka Beta
| stoicjumbotron wrote:
| Really cool to see the development going strong. Even though more
| time is focused on the 2.99 release versions it is nice to see a
| stable version every couple of months or so.
| MikusR wrote:
| Interesting that Gimp website doesn't have a huge Code of Conduct
| section, but still makes releases. While the fork that has is on
| "hiatus"
| alexandr1us wrote:
| I used Gimp daily. I even liked it's UX better than photoshop.
| Switched to Affinity Photo when they had macOS build problems :/
| qalmakka wrote:
| Is GIMP still on GTK+ 2.x? I think 3.x has been out for more then
| 10 years now.
| ancarda wrote:
| >On macOS side, the activity is still slow, if not non-existent.
|
| > So if you want this to change, please join us!
|
| I'd like to help, though I feel like I don't know enough C, and
| I've never used GTK. Is it possible to get a mentor, like you can
| for Linux kernel development, who can help me write my first few
| patches?
| narraturgy wrote:
| I've not heard of this. How does one go about finding a mentor
| to help them learn Linux kernel development?
| severine wrote:
| https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelMentors
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