[HN Gopher] Uncontrollable vomiting due to marijuana use on rise...
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       Uncontrollable vomiting due to marijuana use on rise, study finds
        
       Author : oblib
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2021-09-17 20:36 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | h2odragon wrote:
       | Easy to do with edibles, especially with purified THC that can
       | take some time to be noticeable... You had enough with the first
       | bit; but then you ate the rest of the sack waiting for it to come
       | on. and then you're on a ride.
       | 
       | Also people might be chasing their tolerance up gently, without
       | noticing, to the point where they're "crossing the bump" to more
       | blatant physiological effects.
       | 
       | The question of additives and just what's being sold in vapes and
       | edibles is valid too. Flower is not economical to fake, making
       | your own extracts with ethanol is easy and getting less pure
       | extract is better. in my opinion.
        
         | oblib wrote:
         | I've stayed away from edibles and vapes. I can barely take a
         | small enough pull off a vape to not cough almost immediately.
         | And I don't like the idea of "flavors" being added to it.
         | 
         | Gummies are the same. I can't really control the dose like I
         | can by smoking and I don't like the idea that I might over do
         | it and have to ride it out.
        
           | washadjeffmad wrote:
           | Don't buy, make your own tinctures.
           | 
           | I had to stop smoking (regularly) over a decade ago due to
           | kidney disease, and I was leery of edibles until I switched
           | to ordering resin and CBD to make concentrated stocks that
           | were easy to get working solutions out of.
           | 
           | After how great an experience it was, I firmly decided I'd
           | never smoke/vape again.
        
       | oblib wrote:
       | As long time user I think this can almost certainly be explained
       | by excessive smoke inhalation. Tobacco smoke can cause nausea &
       | vomiting and even wildfire smoke can cause nausea, and I'd expect
       | vomiting as well if you huffed enough of it.
       | 
       | When I was a pre-teen I vomited once after smoking way too many
       | cigarettes and when I was a teen I vomited once after taking way
       | too many giant bong hits. Back then we had daily competitions to
       | see who could take and "press" the biggest hits. We were kids,
       | and we were stupid.
       | 
       | The key to smoking today's weed is to sip a very small puff of
       | it. I can certainly see how one could cause themselves to vomit
       | if they haven't figured that out.
        
       | tyingq wrote:
       | It would be interesting to see if it occurs more/less often in
       | areas with legal marijuana. Might say something about lacing with
       | additives, etc.
        
       | austingulati wrote:
       | A few comments seem to be referring to situations where too much
       | THC is ingested which is certainly becoming more common due to
       | the availability of THC both with legalization of d9 and the
       | legal gray area of d8
       | 
       | But this article is referring to a much different condition:
       | cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome[1]. CHS occurs in long term
       | heavy users eg smoking every day for a year or more. This recent
       | increase feels more like a result of the COVID lockdowns - it is
       | not hard to imagine many occasional users of marijuana switching
       | to every day use after getting stuck at home
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndro...
        
       | rubatuga wrote:
       | Maybe something to do with the enteric nervous system?
        
       | fedreserved wrote:
       | My bet would be on d8 or some derivative there of
        
         | codezero wrote:
         | In case folks don't know what d8 is:
         | https://www.popsci.com/science/delta-8-thc/
        
           | oblib wrote:
           | Thank you for the link. I'd not even heard of this before.
        
         | eurasiantiger wrote:
         | It seems very likely. This illness started manifesting itself
         | only recently, and only in the US. Someone is putting something
         | in the dank.
        
           | austingulati wrote:
           | CHS is not new - it was first reported in 2004: https://en.wi
           | kipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndro...
        
         | washadjeffmad wrote:
         | Unlikely, but there may still be a contamination or fraud issue
         | like what lead to the horrible lipid pneumonia scare.
         | 
         | [?]8 doesn't cause vomiting, even at high doses or when not
         | balanced with CBD. If people are using products that have
         | flavorants and aromatics (including terps) or sweeteners, I'd
         | be much more suspect of those.
        
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