[HN Gopher] The Hot Wheels Design Studio: How a Real Car Gets Tu...
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       The Hot Wheels Design Studio: How a Real Car Gets Turned into a
       1:64 Toy
        
       Author : giuliomagnifico
       Score  : 123 points
       Date   : 2021-09-16 11:12 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | dointheatl wrote:
       | I want to know more about that pen sculpting tool they're using.
        
         | blamazon wrote:
         | No idea what this one is called, but I've used similar tools.
         | It's like a robot arm in reverse--using inverse kinematics we
         | can put the tip of a universal 5-axis manipulator anywhere in
         | x-y-z space by driving the angle of the axes using motors.
         | These scanner pens work in reverse, reading the angle of the
         | axes to get the tip point in x-y-z space and outputting that
         | x-y-z as a point cloud stream to your CAD program of choice.
        
       | Hnrobert42 wrote:
       | I am baffled by website design. I am there to read an article
       | about Hot Wheels. They embed a video about the F-117. Distracting
       | and annoying, but fine. Then, as I scroll more, the video follows
       | me! WTF! No I don't want to watch your stupid video. I want to
       | read your article. Isn't that why it's here?!?
        
         | MrGilbert wrote:
         | Turning on the reader mode in Vivaldi makes the site actually
         | quite readable. It's kind of sad that bad UX destroys enjoyable
         | content (which this article is).
        
         | loloquwowndueo wrote:
         | No stalking videos here (iPhone with 1Blocker). Is your ad
         | blocker disabled or something?
        
           | Hnrobert42 wrote:
           | I use Firefox Focus. Maybe it just doesn't have a rule for
           | thedrive.
        
         | ZetaZero wrote:
         | How do you guys use the internet without an ad-blocker?
         | 
         | With uBlock Origin used, I don't see any jet, nor do I have any
         | video at all.
        
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           | stonemetal12 wrote:
           | Go to website. See that it doesn't respect the user (auto
           | play video ads that follow you around, or whatever bar you
           | set). Go some place else. There really is no need to give
           | time and attention to sites without a modicum of decency.
           | 
           | I also wouldn't get a punch blocker just so I could visit a
           | bar where the door man punches every guest in the face.
        
         | antihero wrote:
         | The Hot Wheels website itself is basically unuseable for me
        
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       | ftio wrote:
       | For about two years, our oldest son was _obsessed_ with the Cars
       | movie. Over that period, friends and family have overwhelmed our
       | house with die-cast Cars toys, of which there are thousands. We
       | have hundreds. We have many that have no speaking part, and we
       | have some that are not onscreen for more than a few _frames_. We
       | have over 25 Lightning McQueens.
       | 
       | These Cars cars are junk. They break so easily. The axles are
       | thin, flimsy pieces of metal, the paint jobs are terrible, and
       | they drive smoothly for two weeks before they start stuttering
       | and sliding.
       | 
       | For comparison, we have a few hand-me-down Hot Wheels (edit:
       | Matchbox, not HW) cars made in England in the 70s that have been
       | abused on-and-off for 20 years, and they still roll like they
       | were just made. Newer ones aren't as sturdy or as heavy as those
       | 50-year-old ones, but they're still much more nicely built than
       | the Cars ones.
       | 
       | All I can say is: thank goodness the Cars phase is over.
        
         | regus wrote:
         | If you decide to keep all these toy cars you can reuse them
         | when your son is older to play Gaslands.
         | 
         | https://gaslands.com/
        
           | drewzero1 wrote:
           | Even (and especially!) the broken ones! Really wrecked ones
           | can be painted rust colors and used as scenery to enhance the
           | carnage.
        
         | 6stringmerc wrote:
         | Counterpoint:
         | 
         | In my household we have about 6 or 7 axle failures. One King, a
         | Cruz, a Sally, a McQueen, and I think something I'm forgetting.
         | 
         | Otherwise on the whole the metal Cars series has been excellent
         | over here. Through the Mack race track thing (since re-sold)
         | and a couple other bang arounds, these look pretty good to me.
         | From floor to sandbox to hosing down, I'm surprised how well
         | these have held up.
         | 
         | Generation 1 was plastic. I get that. Gen 2 - 3 has been pretty
         | decent manufacturing. This Gen 4 has a lot of plastic but the
         | color-change hot/cold water trick is nice for bath time.
         | 
         | Please pardon the pontification, but I'm sorry you haven't
         | enjoyed the Cars universe as much as some others. Also the
         | level of destruction you describe is, uh, probably a different
         | thread. You'd be surprised the resale value on those
         | "thousands" to people who kinda sorta have fun collecting them
         | all.
         | 
         | All I can say is: thank goodness I can stream Herbie movies on
         | Disney+
        
         | autoliteInline wrote:
         | >a few hand-me-down Hot Wheels made in England in the 70s
         | 
         | That's interesting. I thought they were all Hong Kong or US
         | manufacture. I wonder when that started.
         | 
         | Looking back, the car culture was really something. Not just
         | cartoonish new cars like Superbirds but George Barris models,
         | racing windbreaker jackets, the entire universe of slot cars,
         | cars in songs, on pinball machines, CARtoons magazine, STP
         | stickers, Sting-Ray bicycles, etc.
         | 
         | Shame that it's mostly gone but then the whole industry based
         | around draft-horse farming or treadle sewing machines is
         | largely history too.
        
           | ftio wrote:
           | Welp I stand corrected. I confused the names -- these cars
           | are, in fact, Matchbox cars, which were made in England. And
           | they're awesome.
        
             | autoliteInline wrote:
             | I don't doubt that a new Hot Wheels car is inferior to one
             | from 1968, but then they cost about a dollar in 1968.
             | 
             | Honestly I don't remember anyone having Matchbox cars. It's
             | the kind of thing you'd own if you wanted a model of a dull
             | green Austin saloon, plus you'd miss out on the whole
             | orange track/racing angle.
        
               | cardiffspaceman wrote:
               | I had a blue Lotus Europa from Matchbox, and then I saw
               | one in action and never could think a dull thought of it.
        
               | quartz wrote:
               | Surprisingly, they still only cost about $1.
        
         | crispyambulance wrote:
         | > The axles are thin, flimsy pieces of metal...
         | 
         | They have to be for the sake of friction. The older cars
         | certainly had very thin axles as well, perhaps the metal was
         | better quality and they were mounted better.
         | 
         | Anyways, as a kid in the 70's, I remember always preferring
         | Matchbox cars. They rolled better than Hot Wheels back in the
         | day.
        
           | cardiffspaceman wrote:
           | In my experience the Matchbox cars had thicker axles, but
           | they weren't trying to have the least friction. Hot Wheels
           | were, and they had thinner axles. For better or worse, you
           | could stand on both accidentally without collapsing the body.
           | The incident might warp an axle but they could be bent back
           | if you could get a needle-nose in there. And I had a needle-
           | nose pliers because electronics.
           | 
           | Hot Wheels sold track that would allow construction of simple
           | ramps and loops, and low friction was a well-chosen target
           | under the circumstances. I think Matchbox might have put out
           | a line that was similar, but my peers and I did not buy it.
           | 
           | What was cool about Hot Wheels was the racing story. What was
           | cool about Matchbox was the exotic car story. Ford Cortina!
           | What lucky people owned those! But seriously, I had a Lotus
           | Europa from Matchbox and when I saw one in the real world I
           | was blown away. It seemed capable of turning through 90
           | degrees on a dime.
        
             | pomian wrote:
             | Ah. That Lotus Europa. Metallic blue. There has been one in
             | our family tool box since the 70's. Kids ask me why that's
             | there, in between the screwdrivers and sockets, and wire
             | and pliers. "In case of emergencies..."
        
         | wazoox wrote:
         | Ah funny. This summer my 5 y.o. nephew was playing with some
         | cars at my parents' house. Then I immediately recognize most of
         | them: I was playing with them when I was his age in the 70s,
         | and they're still going strong :) (some are Matchbox, some Hot
         | Wheels, but most are Majorette).
        
         | quartz wrote:
         | There's a surprisingly large supply of new old stock hotwheels
         | cars at places like Target, walmart, and CVS. I picked up a few
         | from the early 1980's the other day for $1.29 each or so. I do
         | like that they're on average a little sturdier with more metal.
         | 
         | That said I also have a large supply of 1970's hotwheels and I
         | have to disagree that they're better made, at least in my
         | experience. Most are falling apart and roll poorly due to what
         | I'd call pretty normal play when I was a kid.
         | 
         | The quality of modern hotwheels cars seems to vary pretty
         | wildly by which car series you're buying. I wonder if the
         | "cars" series cars are lower quality than say the color
         | shifters or the circuit legends series (possibly to build in
         | more profit margin for the licensing fees?).
        
           | ftio wrote:
           | My sense is that the quality of these Cars cars has gone down
           | over time. Our nephews, who got them when the movies came
           | out, have really nice ones that have lasted 10+ years.
           | 
           | The ones we got when our son was watching (2-3 years ago) are
           | decent but still flimsy.
           | 
           | The ones we've gotten recently are total trash. Almost 100%
           | plastic. Super light. Awful.
        
         | skhr0680 wrote:
         | That's unfortunate. "Cars" by Tomica I bought a decade ago for
         | my eldest have survived multiple siblings and cousins just
         | fine.
        
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         | sharkweek wrote:
         | Oh good to hear the Cars phase ends because every Friday when
         | it's his turn to pick for movie night, our three year old picks
         | Cars 3, no exceptions.
        
           | mikepurvis wrote:
           | The Cars 3 video game is shockingly decent; I have it on PS4,
           | but it looks like it's on basically everything.
        
           | snypher wrote:
           | Any clues on why he might like 3 over the first two movies?
        
             | CapitalistCartr wrote:
             | I, too, have a three-year-old son. They fixate on stuff
             | arbitrarily. Especially shows. Watching the same one 200+
             | times.
        
             | sharkweek wrote:
             | I think he loves Jackson Storm which is part of it, but
             | mostly as someone else has commented he just attaches
             | himself to stuff.
             | 
             | Current obsessions:
             | 
             | * Anything space related, but especially black holes and
             | the planet Jupiter
             | 
             | * Volcanoes
             | 
             | * Blippi (ugh)
             | 
             | * The song "Message in a Bottle" by The Police (/shrug)
        
             | musicPants wrote:
             | For my son it was all about the Thunder Hollow Breakdown!
        
       | RocketOne wrote:
       | Interesting read. Had no idea it took that long and that many
       | steps to make the actual model for sale or that the scale is not
       | perfect to the original.
       | 
       | More importantly, I regret giving up my collection of hundreds of
       | Hot Wheels to my younger brother in the early 70s. Some of those
       | cars are worth a pretty penny now, but most of all I would like
       | to have them for nostalgia sake.
       | 
       | Fortunately there are now Muscle Machines die cast to scratch
       | that itch.
        
       | hassanahmad wrote:
       | WOW, such an interesting article to read especially for the car
       | lovers like me.
        
       | anderson1993 wrote:
       | Victoria Scott from The Drive published a really nice story today
       | on the process of how a Legends Tour winner becomes an actual Hot
       | Wheels. The subject of this story is Riley Stair's Trans Am!!!
        
         | pstadler wrote:
         | This is the article linked here.
        
           | giuliomagnifico wrote:
           | Sometimes read the article before comment is a good thing, or
           | at least watch the pictures =)
        
       | vondur wrote:
       | I'd like to point out when I was a kid in the 70's, I remember
       | Hot Wheel's cost more than they cost today. This is not even
       | accounting for inflation.
        
       | yummypaint wrote:
       | _From there, the modeler "sculpted" the car using digital clay on
       | a pen-tool carving rig that was originally built as a surgery
       | trainer for doctors in medical school. The tool has motors at
       | each hinge point that allows the pen to offer feedback when
       | "touching" the model. Because of this, it is possible to run the
       | tool along the "surface" of the design and there's resistance
       | offered when sliding across edges or lips._
       | 
       | Anyone have more info about this? It sounds like it isn't
       | necessarily new hardware, but I'm very curious about the software
       | end. Does off the shelf CAD software support those kinds of
       | devices?
        
         | munificent wrote:
         | It's a haptic pen, like:
         | 
         | https://www.3dsystems.com/haptics
         | 
         | I got to play with one at SIGGRAPH 96 (!) and it was a really
         | cool experience. It really does feel like the tip of the pen is
         | sliding over an invisible surface.
        
       | scrumper wrote:
       | This was interesting, the haptic digital virtual carving thingy
       | especially so.
       | 
       | But my favorite bit about this article was the first related item
       | link - a story about Hot Wheels treadmill racing.
        
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