[HN Gopher] The Ultimate Commodore 1541 Disk Drive Talk [video]
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       The Ultimate Commodore 1541 Disk Drive Talk [video]
        
       Author : Audiophilip
       Score  : 68 points
       Date   : 2021-09-16 16:10 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | gfaure wrote:
       | I was lucky enough to see this talk in person at the Vintage
       | Computer Festival West this year.
       | 
       | One of the absolute highlights (timestamp
       | https://youtu.be/_1jXExwse08?t=1903) was the incredible work on a
       | custom disk loader that increased the throughput from 400 bytes/s
       | to 7.5 kB/s! A writeup of that optimisation work, which was only
       | published in 2013, can be found here:
       | https://www.linusakesson.net/programming/gcr-decoding/index....
        
         | crispyambulance wrote:
         | The same person also wrote "The TTY Demystified" also a very
         | good read:
         | https://www.linusakesson.net/programming/tty/index.php
        
         | c64d81744074dfa wrote:
         | > increased the throughput from 400 bytes/s to 7.5 kB/s
         | 
         | Since then someone has come up with yet another custom disk
         | loader that's more than twice as fast as that one!
         | 
         | https://csdb.dk/release/?id=197710
         | 
         | It's incredible that people are still pushing the limits of the
         | stock C64 system these days...
        
         | buescher wrote:
         | "In order to shave off a cycle from every instruction that
         | modifies another one, the entire loop will be placed in the
         | zero-page." Oh wow.
        
           | TacticalCoder wrote:
           | If you like that kind of stuff, here's the 256 bytes (!) C64
           | intro "A mind is born" and its technical explanation... It's
           | using that same zero-page trick:
           | 
           | https://linusakesson.net/scene/a-mind-is-born
           | 
           | I have no words... These coders are amazing!
        
       | localhost wrote:
       | I wrote one of the early fastload cartridges for the 1541 (Epyx
       | had the famous one, but mine also did a fast format, and drive to
       | drive backup across two 1541s) and am looking forward to going
       | down memory lane with this talk! Thanks for the share!
        
         | fatnoah wrote:
         | I had the Epyx one, but I never realized there were others.
        
           | localhost wrote:
           | Mine was the GT4 cartridge, distributed by Pro-Line Software,
           | the same folks who distributed WordPro 64, WordPro for the
           | Vic-20 which I did the port for and likely some versions for
           | the PET as well though that was probably Pro-Micro software
           | IIRC.
        
       | comeonseriously wrote:
       | I remember, as a kid, playing copy protected games at night and
       | hoping my dad didn't wake up mad at me because of all the CLACK
       | CLACK CLACK CLACKing that the drive head was doing as the
       | protection scheme was slamming it all the way to one side to read
       | some bit of data.
       | 
       | Good times, man.
        
       | allenu wrote:
       | Looking forward to watching this. His previous talks, such as the
       | Ultimate Commodore 64 Talk, have been comprehensive, clear, while
       | being very concise on each bit of info.
        
         | anyfoo wrote:
         | I'm only 20 minutes in, but I can already tell you that you
         | won't be disappointed. I feel like after just about a third of
         | the video I already fully understand the physical _and_ logical
         | disk format. Like the previous videos, it 's chock full of
         | dense information presented with very clear visualization.
        
         | rzzzt wrote:
         | Does a high quality version of the Ultimate C64 Talk exist
         | somewhere? I only see fairly low bitrate versions of it. (The
         | embed on Michael's website is dancing postage stamp-sized.)
        
           | Audiophilip wrote:
           | I'm not sure there is one. There are some mirrors[0] that
           | have a copy of the original recording[1], but apparently
           | still very low-res.
           | 
           | [0]: https://events.ccc.de/congress/2008/wiki/Conference_Reco
           | rdin...
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           | [1]: http://ftp-stud.hs-
           | esslingen.de/Mirrors/CCC/25C3/video_h264_...
        
           | anyfoo wrote:
           | Not exactly what you're asking for, but
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsRRCnque2E while being 480p
           | and rather noisy, was very sufficient for me to watch and
           | enjoy the talk back in the day. The presented material does
           | not suffer much on the relatively low resolution.
        
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