[HN Gopher] Oracle Free Java License
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Oracle Free Java License
Author : bironran
Score : 25 points
Date : 2021-09-15 19:26 UTC (3 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (blogs.oracle.com)
| merb wrote:
| did Larry Ellison leave oracle?
| AdmiralAsshat wrote:
| I can see why they did it. We saw _alot_ of customers move from
| OracleJDK to Red Hat 's OpenJDK after the previous licensing
| change a few years back.
|
| As an aside, I originally read the title as "Oracle-Free Java
| License" and wondered why it was coming from Oracle's website.
| commoner wrote:
| This new "Oracle No-Fee Terms and Conditions" (NFTC) license[1]
| is still not a free or open source software license due to its
| following provisions:
|
| > (a) internally use the unmodified Programs for the purposes of
| developing, testing, prototyping and demonstrating your
| applications, and running the Program for Your own personal use
| or internal business operations; and
|
| > (b) redistribute the unmodified Program and Program
| Documentation, under the terms of this License, provided that You
| do not charge Your licensees any fees associated with such
| distribution or use of the Program, including, without
| limitation, fees for products that include or are bundled with a
| copy of the Program or for services that involve the use of the
| distributed Program.
|
| Both the Free Software Definition[2] and the Open Source
| Definition[3] require the license to allow the user to modify and
| redistribute the software, including for commercial purposes
| (such as selling it to other individuals or businesses for a
| fee). The NFTC does not allow this, so if you are able to use
| OpenJDK instead of Oracle JDK, you might prefer OpenJDK's less
| restrictive free and open source software license (GPLv2 with
| Classpath Exception[4]).
|
| [1] https://www.oracle.com/downloads/licenses/no-fee-
| license.htm...
|
| [2] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
|
| [3] https://opensource.org/osd
|
| [4] https://openjdk.java.net/legal/gplv2+ce.html
| donmcronald wrote:
| > Oracle is making the industry leading Oracle JDK available for
| free, including all quarterly security updates. This includes
| commercial and production use.
|
| > Oracle will continue to provide Oracle OpenJDK releases under
| the GPL on the same releases and schedule as it has since Java 9.
|
| Are there technical differences or is it only licensing that's
| different?
|
| My uninformed guess at what's going on here is their licensing
| changes drove all new development to alternate JDK vendors and
| they finally realized they blew up the pipeline that delivers
| customers to their high priced commercial support offerings.
|
| After watching them mismanage JavaFX I don't think I'd trust them
| for anything.
| kasperni wrote:
| > Are there technical differences or is it only licensing
| that's different?
|
| From
| https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase/17-relnote-i...
|
| -----
|
| Although we have stated the goal to have OpenJDK and Oracle JDK
| binaries be as close to each other as possible there remain
| several differences between the two options.
|
| The current differences are:
|
| - Oracle JDK offers "installers" (msi, rpm, deb, etc.) which
| not only place the JDK binaries in your system but also contain
| update rules and in some cases handle some common
| configurations like set common environmental variables (such
| as, JAVA_HOME in Windows) and establish file associations (such
| as, use java to launch .jar files). OpenJDK is offered only as
| compressed archive (tar.gz or .zip).
|
| - Usage Logging is only available in Oracle JDK.
|
| - Oracle JDK requires that third-party cryptographic providers
| be signed with a Java Cryptography Extension (JCE) Code Signing
| Certificate. OpenJDK continues allowing the use of unsigned
| third-party crypto providers.
|
| - The output of java -version is different. Oracle JDK returns
| java and includes the Oracle-specific identifier. OpenJDK
| returns OpenJDK and does not include the Oracle-specific
| identifier.
|
| - Oracle JDK 17 and later is released under the Oracle No-Fee
| Terms and Conditions License. OpenJDK is released under
| GPLv2wCP. License files included with each will therefore be
| different.
|
| - Oracle JDK distributes FreeType under the FreeType license
| and OpenJDK does so under GPLv2. The contents of
| \legal\java.desktop\freetype.md is therefore different.
|
| - Oracle JDK has Java cup and steam icons and OpenJDK has Duke
| icons.
|
| - Oracle JDK source code includes "ORACLE
| PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL. Use is subject to license terms."
|
| - Source code distributed with OpenJDK refers to the GPL
| license terms instead.
| leeuw01 wrote:
| Now I don't get it at all anymore... I'm happy I moved away from
| Java.
| mrtweetyhack wrote:
| it free every other day
| hanlec wrote:
| Does this mean that tools like sdkman can include the Oracle JDK?
| (I haven't found any PR for it yet)
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