[HN Gopher] RaveDJ - AI Music Mashup Maker
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RaveDJ - AI Music Mashup Maker
Author : ZeroCool2u
Score : 43 points
Date : 2021-09-13 17:26 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| dang wrote:
| One past thread:
|
| _Rave.dj - an artificially intelligent mash-up machine_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17849029 - Aug 2018 (94
| comments)
| amirhirsch wrote:
| You Must've Been a Beautiful Baby (Bing Crosby) + The Beautiful
| People (Marilyn Manson) = https://rave.dj/pMtbBq6XQA3Dzg
|
| I'm waiting for it to finish "What a Wonderful World" x "Black
| Hole Sun"
| not1ofU wrote:
| The first 20 seconds are great and the rest is better than what
| I was expecting. Post the other one too please.
| WrtCdEvrydy wrote:
| I wonder if this will finally allow me my dream of mashing "Eros
| Ramazzoti" with "Eiffel 65".
|
| Edit: I think it did (https://rave.dj/wpTgRoPZmv_6yg)... but that
| queue must be toasted right now.
| not1ofU wrote:
| It looks like your mix didn't complete. I got an error "Sorry
| there was an error while building your mix"
|
| For so long, I wanted to Mix "gnarls barkley: crazy" with
| "X-Press 2 Ft. David Byrne:Lazy". I made a poor attempt after
| hearing about "spleeter" [0] and FL Studio.
|
| This wasnt what I had hoped for, but its also not bad
| (certainly better than what I could do)
|
| https://rave.dj/Ag5i0KvOfVSmbA
|
| [0]-https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21431071
|
| Edit: 2 things I've noticed 1) The order you add the songs is
| important, it looks like the 1st track choosen is more
| dominant. 2) If it fails to mix, try a different (less
| mainstream) copy of the song (i.e. not from vevo or one of
| them, but some random youtuber that uploaded)
| not1ofU wrote:
| I can't stop :-) https://rave.dj/O5Ld9QBXadT5-Q This should
| never have been made, I apologies
| tomc1985 wrote:
| You could realize that dream with a free DAW and a wave
| editor...
|
| No web app needed.
| bArray wrote:
| This is a cool project! What's the formula for figuring out if
| something will blend well (as a human)? I failed several times...
|
| The closest I got was "Dreams Nation Army" (Sweat Dreams & Seven
| Nation Army) https://rave.dj/bS7DTzUs_kvFMQ - Sounds okay.
| not1ofU wrote:
| Key and Tempo are (I think, I am far from expert / novice even)
| the 2 most important points to consider.
|
| Most songs wont match so its required to pitch shift to align
| keys (which can also affect the tempo), and tempo because you
| want the beats to match up, otherwise it will sound like a
| mess.
|
| Your "Dreams Nation Army" works well because 7 nation army is
| pretty much a copy of Sweet dreams and they fit well together.
|
| VirtualDJ [0] allows to load multiple mp3's and can match key /
| tempo at the click of a button (manually or autodetect). They
| even built in the option to split stems using the spleeter tech
| [1]
|
| [0] - https://www.virtualdj.com/ - if you want to use the
| spleeter tech, Win 10 is required. It can run in a VM though
| ;-)
|
| [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21431071
| kmlx wrote:
| for djing we can use the circle of fifths and the software
| "mixed in key" as a starting point:
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths
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| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_In_Key
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| and by adding beatmatching we get very nice mixes or
| transitions.
|
| after a while you won't need either of these as things will
| start working out by themselves.
| tomc1985 wrote:
| Just a quick note... Mixed in Key is no longer necessary as
| both Pioneer and Serato's DJ apps include this functionality
| in the base, free versions.
|
| Also, GP might want to look up the 'camelot system', which
| relabels keys in a simple numeric system which makes it a lot
| easier to determine which keys are compatible without
| memorizing the entire circle of fifths. Every DJ I have met
| or played with that keymatches labels their tracks in this
| fashion.
|
| You can print this out and stick it on your wall for quick
| reference: https://mixedinkey.com/wp-
| content/uploads/2018/03/CamelotWhe...
| soylentcola wrote:
| It's surprisingly decent if you pick songs that are already
| somewhat compatible. It's understandably terrible at deciding
| when to bring up vocals of either song (often having both playing
| at once) but I could see something like this working to help get
| some ideas if you already had something in mind.
|
| For example, I put in two songs that I've actually mashed up
| manually. It wasn't nearly something you could consider
| "complete" or even "good" but it gives an idea of how it might
| work.
| ZeroCool2u wrote:
| There has been past discussion of RaveDJ, but it has improved
| significantly since then.
|
| In college, I would frequent the Mashups room on turntable.fm and
| use it as background music for studying, so I was pretty excited
| to see this.
|
| I spent more time than I'd care to admit when I found it creating
| new mashups and also comparing/contrasting them to some of my
| favorite human created mashups.
|
| Here's an example of one I actually enjoyed. (Note: Ads will
| autoplay prior to playback) https://rave.dj/G7AS9HjKvBK6Nw
|
| If you'd like to compare and contrast with some mashups created
| by humans, I'd encourage you to check out The White Panda, Super
| Mash Bros, 5 & A Dime, 3LAU, and Kapslap. Fair warning, a lot of
| this material may only be available on YouTube or SoundCloud.
|
| Finally, I know some of the people that created RaveDJ are on HN
| and if they happen to see this, a technical write-up of how
| RaveDJ works would be of great interest to me, and others I'm
| sure, if you have time.
| dejawu wrote:
| If you want more (man-made) mashups, I've been maintaining a
| list of personal favorites here:
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| https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Dr3iKHVFYGeddLuPfhrm...
| not1ofU wrote:
| Do you have a shared youtube playlist?, google docs is a
| great way to harvest creds and other nefarious things.
| core-e wrote:
| Don't forget Girl Talk and The Legion of Doom.
|
| Also don't forget the greatest mashup of all time,
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43vGywjbuCU
| singingfish wrote:
| Technically I think this is the greatest mashup of all time,
| although it is mashing up preacher and famous tune rather
| than two separate tunes
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdXek5d2ocw
| not1ofU wrote:
| Fantastic, saved.
| not1ofU wrote:
| I submit these for your consideration for greatest mashup of
| all time, which one though?
|
| Marvin Gaye vs. The Pixies - Get It On My Mind
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrzo8MT2VQ
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| Marvin Gaye vs. The Verve: Ain't That Perculiar / Bitter
| Sweet Symphony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ-YXgoIs8k
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| Classical Music Mashup:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DayjwRDcs44
|
| Jefferson Airplane vs. Fatboy Slim - Somebody To Praise
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBtI_sUuL58
| core-e wrote:
| Marvin Gaye vs. The Pixies comes close. :)
|
| These were a treat thanks. I hadn't heard any of them
| before.
| gtpedrosa wrote:
| Can't help but remember LCD Soundsystem + Miles Davis duet from
| 2011: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huEtJw7pfLk
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| Blew my mind back than as it still does today
| smoldesu wrote:
| Super neat site, but be aware that content disappears from there
| constantly. I discovered a great Jet Set Radio x Justice mashup
| on the site a few months ago, and it appears to be completely
| gone now. Make backups!
| dleslie wrote:
| It still seems to have trouble knowing what to down mix and what
| to filter.
|
| That said, if you use tracks that sample other tracks, it works
| OK: Pressure Ice Baby - https://rave.dj/3OP4C39NUmxLwg
| seph-reed wrote:
| I've spent a lot of time talking about art with art friends. At
| this point, we've all seem to agree on three different aspects of
| art:
|
| 1. Non-random uniqueness / creativity. Even is something is lame,
| originality alone can constitute art. (e.g. weird, uncomfortable
| stuff)
|
| 2. Story. The context or meaning behind a thing can take
| something done before and make it new again. (e.g I made a rubber
| band ball for my ex-lover...)
|
| 3. Skill. Something can be totally derivative and bland, but if
| it's really hard to do.. the act of doing becomes the art. (e.g.
| high-quality muzak)
|
| One thing not in this list is "familiarity." Even though
| familiarity is most humans favorite thing. Familiarity is
| actually a major aspect of what defines popular media.
|
| I find that mash-ups lean really hard on the positive
| connotations of familiarity.
| TheOtherHobbes wrote:
| For the uniqueness/familiarity trade-off, see also the Wundt
| Curve.
|
| E.g.
| https://pure.port.ac.uk/ws/files/8060373/COXj_2017_cright_MD...
| not1ofU wrote:
| also subverted familiarity.
|
| My favorite example:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5P5IS0gwWI (loosers paradise)
| seph-reed wrote:
| This one is seemingly pretty strong in all three of the
| things mentioned.
|
| subverted familiarity = originality
|
| the skill is super impressive
|
| and while I don't know the story behind this, it could very
| well be quite meaningful
| not1ofU wrote:
| I am not sure I agree with: subverted familiarity =
| originality, but I guess in the context of your original
| post, I see what you're saying. Maybe subverted expectation
| would have been a better way to express what I meant.
| seph-reed wrote:
| true. there are artists who just kind of "do the opposite
| of normal," which is pretty derivative.
| konfusinomicon wrote:
| my wu tang/jefferson airplane mashup while appropriately titled
| Cream Rabbit, did not turn out so well
| https://rave.dj/KI0Ppkzcp5zVvA
| eligg wrote:
| this is dope
| serverholic wrote:
| This is just cringy.
| dang wrote:
| " _Please don 't post shallow dismissals, especially of other
| people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something._"
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
|
| Edit: you've been breaking the site guidelines a ton lately.
| That's not good and if you keep it up we're going to have to
| ban you. I don't want to ban you, so would you please review
| the rules and stick to them? Here's the basic idea: if you have
| a substantive point, make it thoughtfully; if not, please don't
| comment until you do.
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