[HN Gopher] Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tra...
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       Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to
       enforce quarantine
        
       Author : throwawayfear
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2021-09-12 22:11 UTC (48 minutes ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.geospatialworld.net)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.geospatialworld.net)
        
       | Ms-J wrote:
       | Citizens need to enforce and assert their rights there before
       | it's too late.
        
         | s5300 wrote:
         | Did you never learn that the definition of a government
         | includes having a monopoly on violence?
         | 
         | Australia would essentially become a failed state with your
         | suggestion, and I don't exactly think the government is just
         | going to let that happen.
        
           | bpodgursky wrote:
           | If governments all had a permanent monopoly on violence we
           | would all be forever living under the eternal dynasty of God-
           | Emperor Hammurabi CCCXXIVI in the all-kingdom stretching from
           | the Euphrates to all the sun has ever touched.
           | 
           | Sometimes you have to break the rules to make long-term
           | positive changes.
        
           | anfilt wrote:
           | Armed rebellion is not always needed to make changes. However
           | just letting the state do what it wants without push back
           | certainly is not going to change things.
        
           | pclmulqdq wrote:
           | Australia is already a failed state. That happened the second
           | they decided to imprison their populace and started talking
           | about the "New world order." The state has failed its people,
           | and the only thing left is for it to crumble.
        
             | mandelbrotwurst wrote:
             | Wow, who was it in their government who was discussing a
             | NWO? Do you have any link / source / context?
        
           | throwawayfear wrote:
           | Australia is already on its way to being a failed state by
           | now. Police and military patrol the streets to enforce rules,
           | "papers please" tyranny is required to live, and soon they'll
           | demand complete surveillance and control in your own house.
           | 
           | Wake up before it is too late.
           | 
           | https://theconversation.com/vaccine-passports-are-coming-
           | to-...
           | 
           | "NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian yesterday announced freedoms
           | for fully vaccinated people once 70% of the state's eligible
           | population are double dosed. These include being able to go
           | to hospitality venues, hairdressers and gyms, and have five
           | people to your home."
           | 
           | They are even now trying to limit how many people you can
           | have over in your own home. It is a failed state. Wake up
           | before you are enslaved.
        
         | lwansbrough wrote:
         | What rights? Australia does not have a bill of rights. It has a
         | very limited number of fundamental rights outlined in the
         | Constitution but other than that you seem to be pretty much
         | screwed, which explains why these draconian measures always
         | seem to land in Australia first.
        
         | gobookdev wrote:
         | We just had hundreds of thousands of people go to the beach
         | yesterday ignoring lockdown orders, I was worried about my
         | country having read things like Gulag Archipelago, but the
         | general population have shown where their line is. Still we're
         | now a police state and the general population doesn't seem to
         | give a shit about that.
        
           | throwawayfear wrote:
           | Rally your people and take it to the politicians' offices
           | until they throw out these policies entirely. Wear masks and
           | go in big numbers.
        
       | throwawayfear wrote:
       | To "enforce quarantine"
        
       | blitz_skull wrote:
       | Wow. It's like the twilight zone over there. I'm quite concerned
       | at the lengths governments are going to take away our rights. All
       | in the name of "the good of others".
        
         | InvertedRhodium wrote:
         | Couldn't agree more - the fact that my request to go on a
         | stabbing rampage was declined due to "the good of others" is a
         | travesty against human rights and the freedoms that come with
         | them.
        
         | tootahe45 wrote:
         | That's just the excuse, and the excuses don't come very often
         | so you have to pass as many bs laws while the average voter is
         | in a panic.
        
       | ghuntley wrote:
       | Source code for the South Australian app is at
       | https://twitter.com/geoffreyhuntley/status/14308771839966904...
        
       | glaucon wrote:
       | "... following a selective tender process in November"
       | 
       | Remarkably slow process given that we are dealing with a
       | pandemic.
       | 
       | Worth pointing out that "Australian gov to use" should read
       | "South Australian gov to use" (South Australia being a state of
       | Australia).
        
         | chrisco255 wrote:
         | We're dealing with an endemic disease that is going on its
         | third year. At some point, people and governments need to
         | recognize that fact: it's not controllable and it will spread
         | eventually no matter how dystopian you get.
        
       | notyourday wrote:
       | No, no, no. This is HN. We are, like, possible COVID restrictions
       | are good thing! Violate quarantine?! Beat them all up! It is for
       | the children! And grandma! Google tracking you to place an ad in
       | front of you for a better set of headphones than the ones you are
       | currently shopping for that you can simply not buy? Now that's a
       | violation of human rights!
        
       | jp0d wrote:
       | This might be an unpopular opinion! But there are some really bad
       | people out there. The situation is getting out of hand here in
       | Melbourne and there are people like this family who're Covid
       | positive and still out and about in the community. We should
       | blame selfish people like these for such measures from the
       | government.
       | 
       | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/melbourne/article-9964173/M...
        
         | tosstoyevsky wrote:
         | The people aren't to blame for an extreme government overreach.
        
       | oneepic wrote:
       | From TFA:
       | 
       | >Downloading and using the G2G app is voluntary in WA [Western
       | Australia], but the Government encourages people to use it
       | 
       | So not enforced, right...?
       | 
       | (EDIT: my bad, this refers to an existing app; the new app sounds
       | like it would be a mandated download)
        
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