[HN Gopher] Ergo IRC Server
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       Ergo IRC Server
        
       Author : loo
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2021-09-12 20:38 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (ergo.chat)
 (TXT) w3m dump (ergo.chat)
        
       | superkuh wrote:
       | https://ergo.chat/nope
       | 
       | >Copyright (c) 2019-2021 Daniel Oaks <daniel@danieloaks.net>
       | 
       | >Copyright (c) 2019-2021 Shivaram Lingamneni
       | <slingamn@cs.stanford.edu>
       | 
       | https://danieloaks.net/ is behind this. Notice all the companies
       | associated with Ergo IRC Server are the same as those that are
       | associated with Andrew Lee and the freenode take-over and death.
       | shells.com londontrustmedia handshake.
        
         | danieloaks wrote:
         | Oh haha, hey! I was employed by Andrew across a fair few of his
         | companies (I didn't know Shells.com was owned by him while I
         | was working there though). Buuuut this is entirely unrelated to
         | him, same as my other project https://ircdocs.horse/
         | 
         | It's totally fair to make that link, but I very explicitly told
         | everyone over at LTM/H (including PIA and Handshake) that
         | Oragono/Ergo and ircdocs were not work projects in any way. And
         | while I was working on Shells.com, I was very explicit that I
         | wouldn't be touching any IRC stuff for money while there.
         | 
         | But yeah, it's definitely good to be wary of these kinda links,
         | given what happened to snoo's and fn/libera's team. If you
         | wanna ask any more questions about my stuff in particular, feel
         | free to ask here or send me a mail at daniel@danieloaks.net
        
         | progval wrote:
         | Andrew Lee has nothing to do with Ergo. Daniel used to be his
         | employee (before the freenode takeover), but Ergo wasn't part
         | of the job at all.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | prox wrote:
         | What's the context here? Not familiar with these names.
        
           | dijit wrote:
           | Freenode takeover stuff.
           | 
           | It's a long and drawn out drama.
        
           | gman83 wrote:
           | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-
           | bee...
        
         | MaxLeiter wrote:
         | You'll have a hard time finding IRC related projects not
         | touched by andrew in some way.
        
           | blibble wrote:
           | most of the older large IRC networks wanted nothing to do
           | with him
           | 
           | (having seen people like him many times before...)
        
         | Thorentis wrote:
         | I've noticed some collaboration between shells.com and Linux
         | Mint. Do you know if Andrew is involved or trying to become
         | involved in Linux Mint? I love that distro and community and
         | don't want to see it damaged by this man.
        
           | cassepipe wrote:
           | One sure thing is the Linux Mint help channel is not on
           | Freenode (but SpotChat)
        
         | slingamn wrote:
         | As the co-maintainer of Ergo, since I joined the project in
         | 2017 it has never (to the best of my knowledge) received any
         | funding from Andrew Lee or any company affiliated with him.
         | 
         | It should be noted that for many years, Andrew Lee was a
         | welcome and valued sponsor of the IRC development community. In
         | particular, he sponsored the development of KiwiIRC, InspIRCd,
         | and public IRC specifications and documentation:
         | <https://irc.com/blog/development-updates>
         | 
         | I have never seen anything to suggest that his support of IRC
         | development prior to May 2021 was tainted by a malicious
         | agenda; the events of this year came as a great surprise to me.
         | But in any case, we never got any funding or input into
         | technical decisions from him. As far as I know, he doesn't know
         | we exist. In terms of ongoing specification and development
         | work, we take direction primarily from the IRCv3 working group,
         | in which we are both participants: <https://ircv3.net/charter>
        
       | someguy101010 wrote:
       | Inspircd is what I've been hacking on lately and I have been
       | pretty satisfied thus far. Easy to extend codebase in c++.
        
       | dijit wrote:
       | Honestly if I was starting again I'd set up a single Oragono[0]
       | instance and be done with it.
       | 
       | Other software might be excellent (inspircd), but it's a hard
       | sell to bring a new type of server unless it solves a specific
       | problem.
       | 
       |  _EDIT_ : Oragono has been renamed and is now this.
       | 
       | Leaving here because the world should bask in my foolishness
        
       | tldrthelaw wrote:
       | Cool, but is anyone using IRC day to day in 2021? Not trying to
       | be snarky, I'd love to, just don't know where I'd be.
        
         | progval wrote:
         | https://netsplit.de/ keeps some stats and a channel directory
        
         | ekianjo wrote:
         | Yup still using because its dead simple to self host.
        
         | fallat wrote:
         | Lots of people use IRC still. Libera being probably the
         | biggest.
        
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