[HN Gopher] To Don't - The reverse to-do list
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To Don't - The reverse to-do list
Author : scns
Score : 127 points
Date : 2021-09-11 10:13 UTC (12 hours ago)
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| scns wrote:
| Made me smile. Personally i use Habitica though which offers
| penalties for bad habits too, in a playful way.
| csbartus wrote:
| In the Age of Fallibility this is a must. We are pursuing the
| superman way, while we might be surprised we are already as good
| as it is possible, as we must be.
|
| Tracking the don'ts, then realizing some of them are part of us,
| and this is no problem, will lead us to better humans, to
| understand we will never be perfect and we will always be
| fallible.
| aiisjustanif wrote:
| > while we might be surprised we are already as good as it is
| possible, as we must be.
|
| Well this makes me sad.
| bartvk wrote:
| Actually I know a therapist who told me that he considered
| this one of the twenty aspects of emotional maturity. He
| pointed me to a YouTube video made by Alain de Botton et al,
| quote: "You cease to believe in perfection in pretty much
| every area. There aren't any perfect people, perfect jobs or
| perfect lives. Instead, you pivot towards an appreciation of
| what is 'good enough'".
| pantulis wrote:
| The name is fun because it looks like the evil alter ego of
| Amazin Marvin, a very comprehensive productivity app
|
| www.amazingmarvin.com
| threecheese wrote:
| Are you using Marvin? I considered it but it didn't seem to
| have a visible community (as proxy for life expectancy).
| jonwest wrote:
| Not the original poster but I've tried it a few times.
| Absolutely love the customizability of the methodology, but
| for me the interface was a bit sluggish feeling for quick
| entry and getting a larger overview of my tasks.
|
| Things like page loads were quick enough, it was more that I
| was never _quite_ sure how to do things. It would be kind of
| close to other task management stuff I'd used, but just
| different enough to slow me down significantly and that
| initial and immediate drop in productivity made me look for
| other alternatives.
| tchock23 wrote:
| Going to second this review. I loved the feature set and
| approach to customization, but the calendar in specific
| just didn't 'click' for me.
|
| They do a lot of regular releases and are great about
| listening to users, so maybe someday I'll go back.
| Adaptive wrote:
| As someone that helped create a relatively popular task
| management app, I've scaled things wayyyy back personally and now
| mostly use Apple Reminders and Streaks (Apple ecosystem only so
| far).
|
| Streaks has a great "don't do this" function for tracking habits.
| Recommended as a habit/recurrence tracker in general.
| tomcat27 wrote:
| lol this might actually work!
| _tk_ wrote:
| Other than those shown on the website, could you give some
| everyday examples to write in there? This sounds like a neat app
| I would install and never look at again, after 3 days. I don't
| see myself, friends or colleagues avoiding unprofessional,
| unproductive or regrettable situations if they had looked at
| their To Don't list in the morning.
| moneywoes wrote:
| Gossip, browsing social media etc
| motohagiography wrote:
| Smart. A list of bad habits would help, as self selecting the
| ones we "remember" is different from recognizing ones we do
| unconsciously. Most of them will be immoderate versions of habits
| that are probably mostly good. Short list for me of things to
| choose to stop doing would be, suffering, struggling, searching,
| judging, among others, and in the time and emotional focus just
| those would free up, I could do stuff like lawncare, product
| development, get passively better at something I enjoy, or become
| interested in the experiences of others. I probably won't use an
| app unless it provides some kind of exogenous value, but it's a
| nice piece of art.
| alreadyinxkcd wrote:
| ... go chasing waterfalls.
| mrkramer wrote:
| Aren't To Don'ts counter-productive since there are 99 things you
| shouldn't do and like 5 things you need To Do. This is akin to
| using blacklist as a sysadmin instead of whitelist since there
| are hundreds of potentially dangerous and unwanted apps which
| need to be blacklisted but in reality there are 10 apps that you
| actually need and use which are easier to pinpoint and whitelist.
| mlac wrote:
| It's not the 99 things you shouldn't do that you wouldn't do
| otherwise, it's the 4 that you shouldn't be spending time on
| but are anyway.
|
| "We've always done it this way" - old habits die hard, and
| sometimes what you decide not to do is important as what you
| choose to do. Identifying and marking down time wasters and
| energy sucks is a useful exercise.
| noisem4ker wrote:
| Let's start a list:
|
| 1 - Don't create websites that only show with JavaScript enabled.
| slig wrote:
| 2 - Don't complain to others about your personal choices.
| yosito wrote:
| 2 - Don't create app icons that look like swastikas
| nkozyra wrote:
| I have been doing a combination to do/to don't list for awhile
| and treat the latter like the proverbial unbreakable chain.
|
| So in addition to tasks on my list, I have a M-F to don't list
| that I fill in once I've ... uh, not done that thing.
|
| Mostly related to health, fitness and sleep. It helps me stay on
| track.
| juangacovas wrote:
| A code style guidelines seems like a nice don't list to me, if
| accompanied with examples
| HeyZuess wrote:
| I have a `don't do` list and a `anti-regret` list.
|
| The `don't do` list works well, not all the time but I am
| constantly reminded not to drink coke, down from many liters a
| day. My `anti-regret` list takes priority over my to do list,
| things like spend more time with the kids, again works in the
| majority of times.
| Apocryphon wrote:
| I've thought of creating a "worrybook" to jot down anxious
| thoughts and worries to confirm afterwards whether or not if
| they had any basis in reality, or were in fact irrational. So
| another angle of dealing with regret.
|
| Is there any psychological basis of recording bad thoughts to
| disprove them, as a way to treat anxiety?
| scns wrote:
| It is a very healthy thing to do. The simplest forms are
| getting a clicker and pushing it, every time you have a
| negative/self defeating thought, the other would be to put a
| rubber band around your wrist and let it snap every time you
| have one. Both approaches usually show a decrease in
| negativity against oneself, just by making those self
| deceating thoughts conscious.
| nialse wrote:
| Licensed psychologist here. A similar worksheet is often used
| in CT (cognitive therapy) to challange ones thoughts. The
| therapy is based on the works of
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_T._Beck among others.
| Brief description of CT by GPT-3:
|
| "Cognitive therapy was first developed as a treatment for
| depression. Beck's theory was that depressed people think the
| way they do because they have certain beliefs about
| themselves, their world, and the way the world works. Beck
| believed that these negative thoughts can be changed by
| challenging them with rational responses until the person
| accepts them."
|
| Reach out to a CT (or CBT) therapist if you need guidance on
| how to approach the methods and have them tailored to your
| needs.
| joshjdr wrote:
| Why reference GPT-3? Was there no other suitable or
| practical source available (e.g. dictionary, encyclopedia,
| textbook, WebMD, etc)? Was the output accurate (first try,
| no edits)? I'm just curious, as I doubt the citation as a
| source lends credibility to content itself, or the context
| in which it was provided (no offense intended--- perhaps
| I'm in the minority here).
| Rainymood wrote:
| What you describe is the basis of cognitive behavioral
| therapy (CBT). I use it personally and has helped me greatly
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy
| zelphirkalt wrote:
| When I read anti-regret list first, I thought it would be a
| list of things you already have done, that you came to the
| conclusion you should not regret. But what you describe sounds
| more useful for deciding what to do next.
| ant6n wrote:
| I thought it's a don't do list where you also decide you
| won't regret not doing it.
| tenkabuto wrote:
| Yeah, it seems like you're doing pre-mortem analysis on your
| conscience.
| peterburkimsher wrote:
| In Chinese, there are 2 words for "regret".
|
| Hou Hui hou hui is the regret of things I did: e.g. I regret
| drinking that much.
|
| Yi Han yi han is the regret of things I didn't do: e.g. I
| regret not asking her to dance.
|
| Which do you have more of on your anti-regret list? Spending
| time with kids sounds much more like Yi Han yi han.
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