[HN Gopher] KrebsOnSecurity Hit by Huge New IoT Botnet "Meris"
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       KrebsOnSecurity Hit by Huge New IoT Botnet "Meris"
        
       Author : DemiGuru
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2021-09-10 18:19 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (krebsonsecurity.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (krebsonsecurity.com)
        
       | somehnguy wrote:
       | Well, this is concerning. I just bought a MicroTik RB4011 to
       | replace my ol faithful Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X because I'm getting
       | fiber installed next week...
       | 
       | I guess I will be doing some research on MicroTik vulnerabilities
       | and try to find out if these are just misconfigured devices that
       | got owned or if I should hold off on the switch!
        
         | outworlder wrote:
         | You may be interested in this thread:
         | https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=178417
         | 
         | Edit: also this checker, when you get the device online:
         | https://radar.qrator.net/
         | 
         | Unclear how old your firmware is, but it seems that the
         | vulnerability was patched years ago. Check anyway.
        
         | doubled112 wrote:
         | I don't see how you'd be owned if you're denying all outside
         | traffic, but stranger things have happened.
         | 
         | They don't all come with it configured this way by default, and
         | it's definitely something to be aware of.
         | 
         | The hAP AC^2, for example, has a button that rotates through 3
         | default configs. One of those configs is NAT home
         | router/firewall, one of them is just router, and one of them is
         | completely empty. At least, that's how I remember it working.
        
       | downWidOutaFite wrote:
       | The internet needs to figure out how to make appliance
       | manufacturers liable for security breaches in some way. Otherwise
       | the cost of security is an externality that they dump onto the
       | internet for free.
        
       | DemiGuru wrote:
       | If "Bad bot" traffic now accounts for a quarter of all internet
       | traffic. Increasing by 6.2 percent from the previous year, bad
       | bot traffic now represents no less than a quarter of all internet
       | traffic. At this rate where is the Internet headed? Are we
       | destined to contend with a slowdown in overall network
       | performance as result? (https://www.imperva.com/blog/bad-bot-
       | report-2021-the-pandemi...)
        
         | Guest42 wrote:
         | To me it's rather concerning that more and more products are
         | opting towards connecting to the internet for seemingly little
         | reason. The costs of security on that seem somewhat
         | astronomical.
        
           | soco wrote:
           | Soon your dishwasher will do some blockchain too, because
           | product management is so keen to ride on every fashion
           | wave...
        
           | tendencydriven wrote:
           | Reminds me a lot of "Unauthorized Bread"[0] by Cory Doctorow,
           | worth a read (or listen).
           | 
           | [0] https://craphound.com/category/unauthorizedbread/
        
         | kryogen1c wrote:
         | this reminds me of the books by daniel suarez daemon and its
         | sequel freedom. the internet is taken over by an AI of sorts
         | and one of the first orders of business is to clear out
         | negative value adds like this:
         | 
         | DEATH TO SPAMMERS
         | 
         | if i was to pick two books to recommend to all HN, it would be
         | those. ive read everything suarez has written and theyre all
         | greaf, but the technopolitical daemon and freedom and
         | superlative.
        
         | SyzygistSix wrote:
         | The Maelstrom, a la Peter Watts?
        
       | aasasd wrote:
       | What's the purpose of attacks like these three? Just the
       | advertisement that someone has a nice beefy fleet for rent?
        
         | taxcoder wrote:
         | As a comment on the Krebs article suggests, some see him as an
         | enemy due to his work.
        
           | aasasd wrote:
           | Still not seeing what a DoS attack on him achieves. What, he
           | loses some kind of sweet profits due to the site being down
           | for a day, if Google can't shield it for some reason?
           | 
           | And the other two obviously aren't going to keel over unless
           | you come up with like five of such botnets. They're pretty
           | much the largest possible targets who are still gonna report
           | that they felt something. Which sounds precisely like
           | advertisement to me.
        
             | yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
             | I would naively expect a security researcher to take a bit
             | of a reputation hit if an attack actually managed to take
             | his site down.
        
               | ketzo wrote:
               | And a reputation boost for the hackers that managed to
               | pull it off.
        
               | aasasd wrote:
               | I wouldn't expect that at all, since the attack doesn't
               | have any security implications other than 'someone found
               | how to send a lot of requests from routers', and the
               | target is just one guy with a blog--not a corporation
               | whose _job_ is to serve web requests.
        
             | noAnswer wrote:
             | If nothing else, it is a "show of force".
        
         | deepsun wrote:
         | I believe it became like a game "Flip Krebs". His website
         | became the test-bed for botnets, so see them used in the wild
         | soon.
        
       | mypoormother wrote:
       | Mr. Krebs raped my mother behind the dumpster of an Applebee's in
       | 1992. He is my father.
        
       | yawaworht1978 wrote:
       | He has a very special way with the - as he calls them -
       | miscreants. He engages in rather diplomatic chats, like in a
       | fascinated way. His website is of course target practice for many
       | people, I am sure he is not impressed, he has his own fake
       | swatting protocol with the police, the people had his home
       | swatted many times.
        
       | ogurechny wrote:
       | Are routers "IoT devices" now? This looks like a deliberate
       | journalistic buzzword stuffing, given that the author cites the
       | botnet description extensively.
        
         | SixDouble5321 wrote:
         | The article does mention the Mirai botnet which is made up of
         | light bulbs and DVRs and such.
        
         | coupdejarnac wrote:
         | IoT has always been a buzzword, but at least it communicates
         | what it is slightly better than embedded system. The buzzword I
         | currently despise is edge computing.
        
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