[HN Gopher] 'Havana syndrome ' and the mystery of the microwaves
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       'Havana syndrome ' and the mystery of the microwaves
        
       Author : tim333
       Score  : 20 points
       Date   : 2021-09-09 12:08 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | tim333 wrote:
       | >high levels of radiation were recorded by family members of
       | personnel in Guangzhou using commercially available equipment.
       | "The needle went off the top of the available readings." But she
       | says the State Department told its own employees that the
       | measurements they had taken off their own back were classified.
       | 
       | Some updates on it all.
        
         | sschueller wrote:
         | Since this seems to be occurring only on US territories I think
         | it may actually be some US installed device from some defence
         | contractor that is "malfunctioning". Maybe some device to find
         | listening devices or a device to block eavesdropping? More
         | expensive wifi setups can aggressive suppress "rouge" access
         | points. A stingray is probably also not very healthy to be
         | around as it has to overpower any cell tower near by.
        
           | crowtoe76 wrote:
           | "Mal-function" might well be the intention. Just some
           | classified experimental technology. Defense is just a
           | euphemism after all.
        
           | tim333 wrote:
           | I'm inclined to think its the Russians deliberately messing
           | with US intelligence and the like. I'm surprised the US isn't
           | more actively countering it. Like they should install more
           | measuring equipment and try to find the source instead of
           | covering things up.
        
             | adamrezich wrote:
             | what basis do you have for this specific allegation?
        
             | MR4D wrote:
             | Maybe the US is. Perhaps they already know, and are working
             | on a big counter-offensive, but waiting for the right time
             | to deploy it.
             | 
             | When you're this deep into national security, it is best to
             | assume the story you are hearing is a lie, most likely of
             | omission.
             | 
             | Note that I'm not saying this is the case, but likely there
             | is much we do not know. If you're interested in this, I'd
             | recommend two things - the first is a book [0] written by a
             | practitioner in the field of counterintelligence; the
             | second, a rather violent, but extremely provoking movie [1]
             | 
             | [0] - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1626166803
             | 
             | [1] - https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4560436/
        
       | type0 wrote:
       | Here's how it should be done by the pros:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz7CI-Cyk2s
       | 
       | Only joking off course, but how portable could this sort of
       | equipment actually be?
        
       | stefantalpalaru wrote:
       | "The report said the diplomats' illnesses coincided with
       | increased fumigation in and around residences where they lived.
       | One of the authors of the study, the professor Alon Friedman,
       | clarified in an email to Reuters that both Canadian and Cuban
       | authorities were fumigating." -
       | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/19/havana-syndrom...
        
       | egfx wrote:
       | I've found it curious that the embassy in Havana is surrounded by
       | a tall iron fence with thick iron studs every meter. Is it
       | conceivable that sounds like cricket sounds can be reverberating
       | off of this fence and accentuating the sound waves?
        
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