[HN Gopher] Fire Slow, Fire Fast, Fire Deep (2016)
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Fire Slow, Fire Fast, Fire Deep (2016)
Author : simonebrunozzi
Score : 37 points
Date : 2021-09-06 06:25 UTC (1 days ago)
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| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| I used to live in Africa, and the park rangers would do
| controlled grassland burns, every year.
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| I now live on Long Island (New York). We have the Pine Barrens,
| out east. They are an important filter for our aquifer, and are
| (rightly) protected. I have family that was heavily involved in
| establishing said protection.
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| Scrub pines (what makes up the Pine Barrens) are supposed to
| burn, from time to time. It's actually something that is
| required, in order to ensure the trees continue reproducing.
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| A few years after I moved here, (early 1990s), we had a major
| Pine Barrens fire (accidental). We have not had one, since, and I
| don't think anyone has the political stomach to do a controlled
| burn.
| nerdponx wrote:
| Are small fires being actively put out in the Pine Barrens? Or
| have they just not had a natural fire yet?
| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| I'm not sure. I suspect any fires that pop up, are doused by
| the local vollies.
| cameldrv wrote:
| I mention this talk whenever the subject of fire in California
| comes up. It's an amazing explanation of how we wound up in this
| situation and some reasonable ways out. The role of the Native
| American's practices being abandoned is seriously under
| understood.
| mistrial9 wrote:
| for comparison -- below is current, public policy in California
| 2021
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| https://www.fire.ca.gov/media/ps4p2vck/californiawildfireand...
| nradov wrote:
| That is public policy in California's state controlled lands.
| Many of our largest wildfires have burned on federal land.
| There is some cooperation between state and federal
| authorities but there are significant differences in forest
| management policies.
| mistrial9 wrote:
| US Dept of Agriculture is the authority over the US Forest
| Service; one recent statement here:
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| https://www.usda.gov/sites/default/files/documents/climate-
| s...
| cameldrv wrote:
| They're definitely starting to pay lip service to the idea of
| prescribed fire, but the goal is 100,000 acres by 2025. Last
| year, just the August Complex fire was 1,000,000 acres.
| HPsquared wrote:
| And here's an interesting article on the subject with lots of
| visuals:
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| https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/bb7fe74c1f9f4fec8910a1b.
| ..
| 1-more wrote:
| Mike Davis (author of Late Victorian Holocausts) had a great
| interview on the podcast Trueanon about California fire policy.
| While the fire situation is definitely exacerbated by global
| warming, there are tons of state level land management policies
| that are making the situation worse.
| nerdponx wrote:
| I've never heard of this book before. It looks very
| interesting (albeit probably very depressing).
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Victorian_Holocausts
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| https://www.theguardian.com/books/2001/feb/11/historybooks.m.
| ..
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