[HN Gopher] Ask HN: When is Apple's EV going to be released?
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Ask HN: When is Apple's EV going to be released?
Curious if anyone knows the release date for the Apple Electric
vehicle?
Author : jppope
Score : 9 points
Date : 2021-09-06 20:47 UTC (2 hours ago)
| slater wrote:
| Next Thursday.
| sebastien_b wrote:
| When they make an acceptable product:
|
| - easily serviceable (not just by Apple, like for example getting
| windshield fluid refilled - no, I'm serious)
|
| - properly usable; you shouldn't have to flip it over to charge
| it (like their current mice) and other silly things like that.
|
| Given how much of a control freak Apple is, and how their motto
| is basically that they'll _tell you_ what you want (instead of
| simply giving you what you want), until that changes drastically
| (read: management changes), I don't see a release happening
| anytime soon (unless they want to risk it potentially being
| another flop[1]).
|
| [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28438754
| DevKoala wrote:
| What the customer wants is not often what they need, listening
| to your customers without understanding what they need can be
| the killer of innovation.
|
| Henry Ford has a famous quote:
|
| > If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said
| faster horses
|
| I don't think anybody needed a mouse that needs to be flipped
| to be charged. However, among the dozen things Apple got
| terribly wrong, there are also a handful ones that they got so
| right, that became fundamental pillars of technology.
| johnny_b_g wrote:
| > _Henry Ford has a famous quote:_ >> _If I had asked people
| what they wanted, they would have said faster horses_
|
| False: https://checkyourfact.com/2019/10/10/fact-check-henry-
| ford-q...
| sebastien_b wrote:
| Hubris and arrogance (and "courage") can only get you so far:
|
| - iPod Hifi (which Jobs claimed would completely replace his
| audio gear )
|
| - the butterfly keyboard
|
| - the touchbar
|
| - the original (uber pricey) Homepod
|
| - the trash can (also pricey) Mac Pro
|
| - and I'm pretty sure in a few years' time we'll all be
| looking back at how stupid the "notch" was
| danielmarkbruce wrote:
| They are the most valuable company on the planet with a
| $2.5 trillion market cap. Surely it's fair to say they've
| gone far?
| sebastien_b wrote:
| And that they've had a number of flops (not just 'one')
| along the way.
| johnny_b_g wrote:
| All this means is that they're adept at parting fools
| from their money with "feel-good" marketing and such, to
| benefit their shareholders (those are their "real
| customers", not the consumers of their stuff), and to
| benefit themselves - huge bonuses etc., and have you seen
| their campus? That kind of opulence is on the same level
| as Trump's gold toilets.
| kingkongjaffa wrote:
| I suspect as Dyson learned, Apple is also learning: it's not as
| easy as it looks.
|
| Automotive is a hard game both in engineering and in building a
| reliable supply chain.
|
| Tim Cook can definitely boast a track record when it comes to
| supply chain so they are in a _better_ place than Dyson at a
| guess.
|
| here's an interesting thread:
| https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/pgl51b/apple_reported...
| PhantomGremlin wrote:
| _it 's not as easy as it looks_
|
| I'd love to see Apple try, even if it's just for the lulz.
|
| Apple struggled for years to deliver a functioning laptop
| keyboard. A car is a bit more complicated.
|
| How many dongles would you need to buy before the car had
| reasonable functionality? Would the power source be optional?
|
| The other confounding factor is that an Apple car might feature
| "self driving". I'd also lol at that, but Musk has demonstrated
| that vaporware is quite acceptable there.
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