[HN Gopher] How to Plant the Forests of the Future
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How to Plant the Forests of the Future
Author : nautilus
Score : 21 points
Date : 2021-09-02 11:21 UTC (1 days ago)
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| hinkley wrote:
| Not one mention of succession. If you're starting what we already
| know to be a multigenerational project, then what matters is not
| what are the "right" trees to grow but what are the right trees
| to grow to get more trees, and the right trees to grow to get
| more carbon in the ground. So that's succession pathways and
| growing soil by focusing on the soil food web.
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| From that perspective something like alder or other short-lived
| tree may be better. They flame out and die young, and then you
| can seed trees that like to grow on nurse logs, things like
| hemlock, which will refill the canopy and help keep the process
| going. Then you plant the monster trees that you see in a mature
| forest. If you let this happen organically it will of course take
| longer, but you can nudge things along by planting in clearings
| instead of waiting a lucky germination, cull trees in areas where
| they the pioneer trees are doing too well, reintroduce understory
| plants and other wildlife, microbes, etc.
| betwixthewires wrote:
| IMO this is a terrible idea. Humans love to try to engineer
| things and wind up mucking things up sticking their fingers in
| it. Think of all the invasive deliberately introduced species
| worldwide. In some cases it worked out, but the results were not
| predictable, in most cases it caused unforseen problems usually
| as bad as or worse than the one people were trying to solve.
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| > Currently voluntary for foresters, transferring seedlings in
| anticipation of future climate conditions will soon become
| mandatory.
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| Think of this: those forests that are there, when the climate was
| different before there were probably different sorts of plants,
| no? I'm not talking millions of years ago, I'm talking ten
| thousand years ago, way too short of a timeframe for evolution.
| So how did those plants get there?
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| The answer is clear, either the trees that are there are more
| adaptable than we give them credit for, or the seeds were winding
| up there but didn't germinate until climate changed to the
| conditions they needed.
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| Either way no intervention is necessary.
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| So why don't we just let it happen naturally the way it always
| has? Why do some people think a solution to (pardon my French)
| putting your dick in the pudding is to put your dick in the
| pudding some more? Maybe quit digging the hole and leave shit
| alone?
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