[HN Gopher] Wild boars are able to open traps to free their fellows
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Wild boars are able to open traps to free their fellows
Author : giuliomagnifico
Score : 108 points
Date : 2021-08-30 10:27 UTC (1 days ago)
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| throwarayes wrote:
| Reply all had a great podcast on the wild boar problem in the US
| south, jumping off the "30-50 wild hogs" tweet
|
| https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/n8hw3d
| lostandbored wrote:
| I feel bad for guy who tweeted as someone from East Texas. Main
| reasons I want to go into hunting is to the keep wild boar
| population in check, or at least slow their growth.
| gaspard234 wrote:
| I'm from Central texas, own 50 acres in the hill country and
| own several ar-15's. This guy is delusional, no one is
| shooting 30-50 hogs on their property. I only read the first
| few paragraphs but so far the conversation is ridiculous.
|
| The sharpest shooters can get a few as they scatter, they are
| damn smart and very capable.
| CoryMathews wrote:
| They fly in helicopters and can shoot that many in a day.
| Its usually very large areas (thousands of acres) with a
| surrounding game fence. Since the hogs have no natural
| predators they have to be removed somehow and this is one
| common route. Vastly different scenario then a small 50
| acre place.
| teachrdan wrote:
| According to what I've read, hunting hogs from
| helicopters has made the problem worse. It's had the
| effect of scattering them across a wider area.
|
| Unless you can guarantee you'll kill all the hogs that
| scatter due to the helicopter--not just the ones you see!
| --then it's likely counterproductive.
| h2odragon wrote:
| Positive argument for the deployment of full auto weaponry
| and possibly mines and other mass murder hardware.
| curryst wrote:
| That is not a good idea. Innocent people will die when
| forgotten mines go off in a decade, and full auto
| weaponry is probably overkill. I can't imagine your aim
| is going to get any better when you're firing in full
| auto, unless you're far closer than you want to be.
|
| Plus there are far easier solutions. Poisoned corn does
| about the same thing as mines, but with less risk
| (assuming you put up signs) and cost. Both are probably
| still bad ideas, though, because of the effect on other
| wildlife.
| h2odragon wrote:
| "forgotten" mines? Perish the thought. I'm thinking
| traps. like command detonated "kill the acre" measures.
|
| I don't like poisoned bait for broadly similar reasons;
| I'd like more targeted slaughter. It's not easy to get a
| big gang that close together.
| nathancahill wrote:
| Don't encourage them
| lostlogin wrote:
| Reading the article had me wondering about these people who
| devise these things. 'This conclusion was supported by a study in
| which rats opened a door and freed a distressed, soaked cage mate
| from a water tank. Moreover, rats did not open the door for
| soaked cage mates that were not in distress.'
|
| They clearly tormented at least a few animals.
| forgotmypw17 wrote:
| >Rescue behaviour represents an extreme form of prosocial
| behaviour that has so far only been demonstrated in a few
| species. It refers to a situation when one individual acts to
| help another individual that finds itself in a dangerous or
| stressful situation and it is considered by some authors as a
| complex form of empathy.
|
| https://www.foxnews.com/us/lone-goat-may-be-to-blame-for-new...
|
| A goat who escaped a New Jersey livestock auction house more than
| a year ago may be the one to blame for helping more than 75
| others escape, the facility's manager said Thursday.
|
| More than 75 goats and sheep escaped the Hackettstown Livestock
| Auction on Wednesday night. Hackettstown police officers
| responded to the scene and were able to herd up to 60 animals
| into their pen. About 15 animals were believed to be on the run
| still.
|
| One goat who was able to escape the same auction house last year
| is believed to be behind the escape, according to the New York
| Post. The goat occasionally pops up around town.
|
| After the escape, the goat showed up at the facility and
| headbutted the gate holding the animals that had been caught in
| an apparent effort to help them escape again, facility manager
| Bouwe Postma told the New York Post.
|
| "It was him [last night]," Postma told the newspaper. "I think
| he's the culprit. He must have banged that fence and let him out
| last night. I'm almost positive. He must have put a lot of force
| into that."
|
| The great escape came about a week after more than 100 goats
| escaped in a Boise, Idaho neighborhood.
| [deleted]
| setgree wrote:
| Came here to post this. I once heard a scientist say that
| humans were his favorite species because only we will run into
| a burning building to save others, especially others who are
| not kin. The thing is, it's just not true. We're only beginning
| to understand the inner lives of animals.
| dbsmith83 wrote:
| > About 15 animals were believed to be on the run still
|
| Missed opportunity for an "on the lamb" pun
| francoisdevlin wrote:
| The article makes the joke in a caption
| dbsmith83 wrote:
| Thank goodness. How could a journalist _not_ make that joke
| with this story?
| lostlogin wrote:
| "Kids these days" came to mind too.
| ginko wrote:
| How is that even a pun that's supposed to work? 'lamb' sounds
| nothing like 'run'.
|
| (also young goats are called kids, but that's a bit too much
| hairsplitting even for me)
| necrotic_comp wrote:
| https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/84871/why-do-
| criminals-g...
| CatAtHeart wrote:
| It's a pun on the phrase `on the lam` which means running
| away (from the law)
| dbsmith83 wrote:
| Being "On the lam" means being on the run from the law
| amock wrote:
| The original phrase is "on the lam"
| https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/on_the_lam
| dbsmith83 wrote:
| thanks for the spelling correction, updated
| Jgrubb wrote:
| Resident of the area reporting that the pun was deployed
| successfully in local media.
| LurkingPenguin wrote:
| Smarter than many humans.
| leephillips wrote:
| I thought the locking mechanism of the trap was clever.
| jcims wrote:
| I saw a wasp help another wasp get its leg out of a gap between a
| light fixture and some siding.
|
| I saw the whole thing, I was watching the stuck wasp because it
| was trying to fly away but its foot was pinned. As I'm watching,
| another wasp flies by, slows down, turns around and lands by the
| stuck one. The helper just kind of bit at the foot and pulled on
| it. After a couple of tugs it broke free (or off) and they both
| flew away.
|
| I went and found how many neurons they have in their brain, I
| can't find it now but it was under a million maybe 500k or so. I
| thought it was remarkably complex behavior.
|
| And then I killed them both. -\\_(tsu)_/-
| aaron695 wrote:
| > ants rescuing their colony members trapped in a nylon snare
| buried in sand represent concrete examples of this phenomenon.
|
| Whatever this paper is showing, it is nothing more than what ants
| can do.
|
| Also the current HN title contradicts the paper, it's not showing
| if the pig could free the other pigs.
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