[HN Gopher] "I'm Not Supposed to Show You This " - Edward Snowde...
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       "I'm Not Supposed to Show You This " - Edward Snowden (2021)
        
       Author : rhabarba
       Score  : 15 points
       Date   : 2021-08-30 21:54 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | sysrpl wrote:
       | The joke is on them. I don't have a cell phone, I don't use
       | Facebook, and I am constantly Linux distro hopping when I work
       | writing code while ssh'ed into private servers behind my private
       | VPN.
        
       | randomopining wrote:
       | Snowden is hugely hypocritical.
       | 
       | Hurting the US, which helps Putin and CCP. At least the US has a
       | feedback loop that the people are in, they can vote and actually
       | make a difference.
       | 
       | He stays in Russia, which does the same thing but doesn't let any
       | of that get out - they'd killed anybody who leaked one thing. And
       | of course the CCP, which implements all of this on such a large
       | and open scale it's hilarious. Of course Snowden won't speak out
       | against them, because he'd be gone in a second.
       | 
       | So yeah - get this guy back, give him a trial, and give him what
       | he deserves.
       | 
       | PS: As a normal American who doesn't do anything bad, I don't
       | care that they collect my anonymous metadata and apply some ML
       | algos to it.
        
         | _def wrote:
         | He doesn't talk only about the US.
         | 
         | Regarding your PS, how do you know what is "bad" and will be
         | considered "bad" in the future? This is blind trust in your
         | privileges. Also, there is nothing "anonymous" about mass
         | surveillance.
        
         | nolroz wrote:
         | Yep, that's the argument that seems to feel correct until your
         | GPS data gets correlated with a crime and you end up in jail
         | for something you didn't commit. It's happened already, it'll
         | happen again. Or, like in Afghanistan right now- a government
         | changes policy or makes new laws and then all of a sudden
         | you've been a criminal all along and need to be punished.
        
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