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       Show HN: Voicera - Add life-like AI voice dictation to your blogs
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       Author : arbobmehmood
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2021-08-29 14:10 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.voicera.co)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.voicera.co)
        
       | lifeisstillgood wrote:
       | I assume there are a number of Youtube channels doing something
       | like this already - I occasionally notice that an otherwise well-
       | researched and presented item has a non-English idiom - such that
       | even a fluent speaker would self-correct.
       | 
       | I guess the idea is to write one and just "release" it in many
       | languages.
       | 
       | The point of all that is, yeah, computer generated voice has
       | gotten to the point I need dumb mistakes to realise ... one of
       | those "the tech has passed an inflection point" moments
        
         | phreeza wrote:
         | I think I know the type of video you mean, I always assumed
         | they were not TTS but professional speakers hired on Fiver and
         | obliged to speak the text verbatim even though there are weird
         | phrases.
        
         | AYBABTME wrote:
         | And yet apps that leverage this are quasi absent. The Firefox
         | screen reader widget is good but the voices are limited and the
         | functionality limited to well formatted pages. E-book software
         | seems to not integrate this tech either.
        
       | pvinis wrote:
       | Cool idea, but wouldn't it be more useful as a feature for an RSS
       | reader? No user of mine would come to the website and listen, but
       | if they use a reader for my feed and other feeds, that would be
       | useful for them.
        
         | arbobmehmood wrote:
         | Thanks for the feedback. We'll look into it.
        
       | sramam wrote:
       | Congratulations on launching!
       | 
       | A question - in the sample dictation on the site, it adds a voice
       | annotation for "features" and "pricing categories". These weren't
       | encoded in the HTML. How does it figure that?
        
         | arbobmehmood wrote:
         | It's manually generated from our in-house content. :)
        
       | kkielhofner wrote:
       | I submitted this comment on ProductHunt too but I wanted to make
       | sure you see it:
       | 
       | Looks great but FYI there's a long-standing healthcare company
       | that's been in business for over a decade with various speech
       | products/features named "Vocera"[0]. I'm not a lawyer but they
       | have many trademarks on Vocera and the standard is generally
       | "likely to cause confusion". You're probably well in that
       | territory with a speech product that sounds almost identical and
       | is one letter off. When Googling "voicera" Google
       | replaces/suggests "Vocera". There's a pretty decent chance you'll
       | be hearing from them.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.vocera.com/
        
         | chakspak wrote:
         | I was thinking the same. I hear this company name all the time
         | at my work, so when I saw the title, I did a double-take and
         | thought there was a typo. They even have AI voice command, so I
         | briefly thought it was the same company.
        
         | jhghjlg wrote:
         | You must be fun at parties.
        
         | garduque wrote:
         | We use the Vocera hands free devices where I work. At first
         | glance of this title I thought "oh, they do AI dictation stuff,
         | too? I guess that makes sense." And then I noticed the spelling
         | and had the same thought as you. So, ditto.
        
       | llimos wrote:
       | Isn't this built-in in most browsers?
        
       | adz_6891 wrote:
       | Looks cool, congrats on the launch! Will you guys be doing text
       | to speech in any indian languages? If so would love to see a demo
       | of that!
        
         | arbobmehmood wrote:
         | Thanks for using our app. Voicera currently supports English
         | (India) accent. However, more languages are definitely in the
         | cards.
        
       | spyder wrote:
       | Wanted to try but I'm getting: "Invalid SSML request" and on
       | other pages "Insufficient credits.", or just returns the sample
       | voice.
        
         | arbobmehmood wrote:
         | Hello. Can you please send me your registered email ID on
         | contact@voicera.co? We'll see what's the issue.
        
       | psyc wrote:
       | The word 'dictation' is confusing here. I think you want
       | 'recitation', 'vocalization', 'narration' or just 'reading'.
       | Dictation is speech-to-text, this is text-to-speech.
        
         | phreeza wrote:
         | Came to the comment section to say this. I suspect it may be a
         | mistranslation?
        
         | r_singh wrote:
         | that's what the software does, it dictates the text...
        
           | tirpen wrote:
           | No, it does the exact opposite.
           | 
           | Dictation is writing down what someone is saying.
           | 
           | This is software that says what someone writes down.
        
             | sdevonoes wrote:
             | > Dictation is the transcription of spoken text: one person
             | who is "dictating" speaks and another who is "taking
             | dictation" writes down the words as they are spoken. Among
             | speakers of several languages, dictation is used as a test
             | of language skill, similar to spelling bees in the English-
             | speaking world.
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictation_(exercise)
             | 
             | Here the software is the "person who is dictating".
        
               | layer8 wrote:
               | It's not dictation if the spoken text is not recorded or
               | written down by a device (voice recorder) or by a human.
        
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       | JZL003 wrote:
       | Anyone have a nice opensource/pretrained TTS model they like
       | using? I use google's wavenet TTS heavily to create 'audiobooks'
       | (especially from archive.org which is great for old books). But
       | it's pretty expensive
       | 
       | I periodically look for new versions and, while the examples
       | sound better, they fall down really hard on other text.
        
         | briga wrote:
         | Mozilla has a pretty good open-source TTS library. In general
         | high-quality pre-trained TTS models are surprisingly hard to
         | find--I'd also be curious to see if anyone knows any good
         | alternatives
        
         | synesthesiam wrote:
         | You might give Larynx a try: https://github.com/rhasspy/larynx
         | 
         | Demo: https://youtu.be/hBmhDf8cl0k
         | 
         | (I'm the author)
        
           | follower wrote:
           | Wow.
           | 
           | I'd really encourage you to invest some time into SEO and
           | promotion of your project.
           | 
           | I spent a bunch of time recently looking for exactly this:
           | TTS, offline, an Open Source licence, and with
           | "decent"/"natural" sounding default voices.
           | 
           | The "best" I ended up finding was `espeak-ng` but, really,
           | the "natural"-ness is barely comparable to what Larynx seems
           | to produce--based on a quick listen to the demos here:
           | https://rhasspy.github.io/larynx/#en-us
           | 
           | On first impressions at least, Larynx definitely seems to be
           | a project that desires a higher profile in this space.
           | 
           | Thanks for sharing the project here, I'll be interested to
           | take a deeper look when I circle back to my side-side project
           | that could benefit from it. :)
           | 
           | (BTW I didn't watch/listen to the YT video all the way
           | through yet but if the narration is generated by Larynx
           | (which it seemed it _might_ be?) it 's definitely worth
           | stating that up front.)
           | 
           | Oh, also, really appreciate that there's multiple options for
           | non-male voices too which is something that seems to be
           | sorely lacking in similar projects.
        
             | infinite8s wrote:
             | Yes agreed, this is great! The best I found that could
             | generate faster than real-time without a GPU was
             | speedyspeech (https://github.com/janvainer/speedyspeech).
             | Unfortunately it was only trained using the LJSpeech
             | dataset and I haven't been able to transfer to a multi-
             | voice model. I have been using it to build an story-telling
             | app for my kids.
        
           | JZL003 wrote:
           | That is pretty nice, one of the best collection of voices
           | I've seen and the best interface
           | 
           | Google gives 1 million characters per month free which I
           | don't often go over, but this will be really useful for when
           | I do
           | 
           | I don't want to be unappreciative, it's amazing that this is
           | possible much less free, but when you spend hours listening
           | to it every day, the cracking and warbling do get old. I
           | think there are better models I've heard snippets of but the
           | truly amazing thing about google's is how robust it is to
           | very weird words
           | 
           | (When I tried all the public cloud offering's, IBM's was the
           | marginally nicest AFAICT but it was the most expensive with
           | least free quota)
        
             | JZL003 wrote:
             | Yeah https://cloud.ibm.com/catalog/services/text-to-speech
             | it's so smooth
        
           | czottmann wrote:
           | That is ace. Thanks for sharing!
        
         | TylerLives wrote:
         | I don't have an answer to your question but I'm curious about
         | something else: What kind of results would you get if you used
         | one of the paid TTS models to generate a dataset and then
         | trained your model on that dataset? Would it be possible to
         | recreate their model in this way?
        
       | geraneum wrote:
       | This might be beneficial for visually impaired if the performance
       | (closer to natural voice) is better than the default text-to-
       | speech softwares on the OS. I think this is an important factor.
       | 
       | However OS makers can catch up and threaten the business model of
       | this software by integrating a better TTS.
        
       | wrs wrote:
       | Listen to the bad reading of "Let users listen to your articles
       | while they shop, commute or do something else". Having your text
       | read by a dumb computer is yet another reason to use the Oxford
       | comma.
        
       | arduinomancer wrote:
       | How does it compare to something like AWS Polly?
       | 
       | I noticed AWS blogs all have this feature in recent times which
       | is cool.
        
         | hadrien01 wrote:
         | It seems to be the exact same voice
        
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