[HN Gopher] Missile Base for Sale
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Missile Base for Sale
Author : iamhamm
Score : 116 points
Date : 2021-08-28 15:40 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| dundercoder wrote:
| From Wikipedia " Sprint accelerated at 100 g, reaching a speed of
| Mach 10 in 5 seconds. Such a high velocity at relatively low
| altitudes created skin temperatures up to 6,200 degF (3,430
| degC), requiring an ablative shield to dissipate the heat. The
| high temperature caused a plasma to form around the missile,
| requiring extremely powerful radio signals to reach it for
| guidance. The missile glowed bright white as it flew."
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_(missile)?wprov=sfti1
| clircle wrote:
| What a steal!
| NiceWayToDoIT wrote:
| Erm, if you buy it, do you need to inform Russians and Chinese to
| delete that particular site as a target in case of the nuclear
| exchange? :)
| mrtweetyhack wrote:
| advertising
| Animats wrote:
| That was one of the four outlying defense bases to defend the
| Safeguard radars. The huge radar at the main base in the center
| is still working, and the main site is still a USAF installation.
|
| The US has some working missile defenses. Vandenberg is the main
| US launch site for them. They might be able to stop an attack
| from North Korea, or at least thin it out a bit. They only have
| 30 interceptors or so, which is nowhere near enough to do much
| against a superpower attack. That missile defense operation is
| run by the Army, not the USAF or Space Force.
|
| Some US Navy ships have anti-ICBM capability, but that's only
| useful if a ship happens to be in the right position at the right
| time.
| krisoft wrote:
| > Some US Navy ships have anti-ICBM capability, but that's only
| useful if a ship happens to be in the right position at the
| right time.
|
| Interesting anecdote on this topic: One of these shipborne
| anti-ICBM systems is called the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense
| System. By all accounts it seems successful enough of a system,
| but as Animats mentions above there is the problem that it is
| only useful if the ships are in the right place. And if you
| never move your ships, why would you want to pay all the extra
| costs associated with their maintenance? So people come up with
| the concept of installing the same system on shore based
| installations. They called it the Aegis Ashore system. If you
| squint at it it kinda looks like as if the rough outline of a
| ship's superstructure is sunk into the concrete:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegis_Ballistic_Missile_Defens...
|
| So now we have Aegis, and Aegis Ashore. Here comes the twist.
| Japan wanted to install the Aegis Ashore system, but for
| various reasons they couldn't find the right place on land to
| put it. So they come up with the idea of installing it on
| barges. And if they do we will have Aegis Ashore-Afloat. :)
| (Though I'm reading just now that it seems they have canceled
| these plans. Pity.)
| ortusdux wrote:
| Sounds like a high value target, and therefore a foolish place
| for a private individual to build a bunker.
| willvarfar wrote:
| > Some US Navy ships have anti-ICBM capability, but that's only
| useful if a ship happens to be in the right position at the
| right time
|
| A lot of the interest in surface ships shooting down ballistic
| missiles is because China and Russia have been developing
| hyper-sonic anti-ship missiles.
| AtlasBarfed wrote:
| And the navy wants to pretend their surface fleet isn't
| sitting ducks against real state actors in an actual war with
| a real power.
|
| Allegedly the Navy has an actual usable point defense
| laser... but I strongly suspect all these high tech capital
| defenses are just the usual Navy boondoggles to enrich
| contractors and will be worthless against swarm drone
| attacks.
| Animats wrote:
| Not yet. Laser defense systems keep getting better each
| year. Solid state 70KW lasers are in test. The consensus is
| that they start to get militarily useful above 100KW.
|
| Higher powered chemical lasers have been built, but were
| too bulky, fragile, and difficult to operate. The high
| point of this was MIRACL, a big fixed-installation megawatt
| chemical laser.[1] Israel tried a US-made chemical laser
| about a decade ago, and it worked against small rockets and
| artillery shells, but it took several semitrailers of
| support equipment. A newer one built in Israel is less
| bulky and solid state, and will probably go into service.
|
| These are all systems with ranges of tens of kilometers at
| maximum. ICBMs remain out of reach for now.
|
| The USAF is already testing lasers against drone swarms.[2]
| That's not as hard. 30KW can take out a drone, and the
| laser can be re-positioned fast. Truck-mounted versions of
| that will probably surround US air bases in hostile
| territory within a very few years.
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIRACL
|
| [2] https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a297
| 27696...
| Animats wrote:
| Another one of the four outlying launch sites is a tourist
| destination.[1]
|
| [1] http://rsl3.com
| yeldarb wrote:
| I recently watched this YouTube about visiting a bunker community
| in South Dakota that was pretty interesting:
| https://youtu.be/QW6DIchOpnc
|
| Looks like it's only 1/10 of the price to buy one of those
| instead!
| leetrout wrote:
| Located here:
|
| https://www.google.com/maps/@48.8490754,-98.4321807,564m/dat...
| LegitShady wrote:
| Anything that lists Winkler Manitoba as an attraction is an
| obvious scam.
| whoisthemachine wrote:
| Langdon is a nice little town, I wouldn't call it an attraction
| however, but to each their own...
| Igelau wrote:
| The "city" seal has a shopping cart on it!
|
| https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/577912501276278784/f8oM...
| ThePadawan wrote:
| I think you would have been right by putting "shopping cart"
| in quotes as well. Blimey.
| toast0 wrote:
| And the settings icon. And pasta? Maybe I can shop, get my
| car fixed and get something to eat? Sounds attractive.
| Igelau wrote:
| > pasta
|
| I think it's supposed to be a sheaf of grain. Same idea!
| varelse wrote:
| The cool kids all bought New Zealand citizenship so this is your
| once in a lifetime opportunity to invest in their hand-me-downs
| oops I mean tax write offs...
| beaner wrote:
| What
| NateEag wrote:
| I think it's a reference to the fact that NZ looks like a
| great place to ride out a nuclear exchange.
|
| Most of the nuclear powers are in the northern hemisphere, so
| you want to be southern.
|
| Obviously you want to be somewhere that's not going to be a
| target, and as a small island nation without nukes (and in
| fact one that forbids nuclear-powered vehicles from entering
| its airspace:
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_nuclear-
| free_zon...), NZ is very unlikely to be targeted by any
| nuclear combatants.
|
| It's just big enough that it's got some chance of sustaining
| basic industry in event of the major powers collapsing back
| into the stone age.
|
| Despite that, as a remote island, no one's likely to invade
| it for its resources or infrastructure after a nuclear war.
| It's just too hard to get there without modern navies and air
| forces.
|
| So, all that to say I think the OP is (sarcastically?)
| suggesting that someone rich has acquired a place in NZ and
| is looking to dump this bunker they no longer have a use for.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Asking $1,500,000.00 January 14, 2021: Reduced to $550,000
|
| Terms: Cash or $500,000 down and owner carry remainder
|
| They'll carry the remaining $50k after your $500k down payment.
| Sounds like they're okay with $500k flat to me.
|
| Edit: I'm not seeing an address for the site. I need to know what
| school district it is in, and how close to downtown and other
| activity centers. Maybe that helps explain the $50k wiggle room?
| sethev wrote:
| Downtown? The entire county that this is in has fewer than 4k
| people living there. This would be for someone who wants to get
| as far away from activity centers as possible while still
| staying in the lower 48.
| formerly_proven wrote:
| But does it have fiber internet?
| dylan604 wrote:
| If you can afford $500k in cash, you can afford to have
| fiber run to you.
| vl wrote:
| You need to run fiber from somewhere, and something tells
| me there is no connection office in few hundred miles.
| leetrout wrote:
| It's located here
| https://www.google.com/maps/@48.8490754,-98.4321807,564m/dat...
|
| 103rd Ave NE & 99th St
| gnu8 wrote:
| It's not good to use any Google products or services. Here is
| a good alternative:
| https://zoom.earth/#view=48.84914,-98.431622,18z
| tills13 wrote:
| It's perfectly reasonable to use Google products or
| services because, quite often, they are just flat out
| better. I'd say that's the case here since the Google one
| has much higher fidelity at higher levels of zoom. Besides,
| zoom.earth uses Microsoft imagery so pick your poison if
| you have issues with mega-corps with supposed privacy
| issues.
| dtgriscom wrote:
| I'm spoiled; I'm disappointed when I go into 3D mode and the
| structures don't rise above the ground.
| 41b696ef1113 wrote:
| I would love to know an estimate on what annual upkeep would
| cost you. For all I know, it costs $200k annually just to keep
| it from flooding.
| geekamongus wrote:
| Maybe you could get the Flex Seal guy to do his next
| commercial there and seal it for free.
| khuey wrote:
| I suspect they didn't change the terms when they marked it down
| by nearly 2/3rds.
| nostrademons wrote:
| For the price of a down payment on a small Silicon Valley home,
| you too could own a 36-acre missile site!
| sandworm101 wrote:
| >> now what school district it is in, and how close to downtown
| and other activity centers.
|
| It is a missile silo. They didn't put those things close to
| city hall. According to GoogleMaps it appears to be about a
| kilometre from Nekoma, a town of 50 that may or may not have a
| school. The next town is Langdon, ~2000 people 30km away. Your
| choice of schools and/or coffee shops might be limited.
|
| Lol. The nearest Tesla supercharger is in 85km away ... in
| Canada. The nearest US charger is in Fargo, 200km away. Nearest
| starbucks is 100km. But given that the roads all go north-south
| or east-west, I would add about 50% to those numbers for
| driving distance. If there is a nowhere, this is the middle.
| HWR_14 wrote:
| > may or may not have a school.
|
| The listings was very clear:about whats around them "Langdon,
| _9 miles_ [about 15km] Amenities: grocery store, gas
| stations, _school district_ , ... "
| sandworm101 wrote:
| I did not say that Langdon did not have a school. The
| sentence you quote is about Nekoma, the town immediately
| beside the listed property, which at 50 people is clearly
| so small as to likely not have any formal school.
|
| "School district" is also very different than "school".
| Being in a district means that you are in a _district that
| has school_ not that that school is anywhere nearby. It may
| be a long bus ride every day. Being in a district only
| means you will not have to home school your kids. And
| Langdon has _one_ highschool. Choices are therefore very
| limited.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langdon,_North_Dakota
| dylan604 wrote:
| The day I decide where to live based on nearest Starbucks,
| please, just shoot me.
| twothamendment wrote:
| When moving, there is nothing wrong with checking out how
| far away Starbucks is. It worked for me and it is far...
| batuhanicoz wrote:
| Amount of nearby Starbucks branches around was a
| consideration for me when I picked my last flat.
|
| This is not for the occasional Frappuccino but as a simple
| indicator how popular a particular neighborhood is. It also
| tells some, but not much, about the demography too.
|
| Starbucks is also one of the cheapest places you can get
| coffee/sweet drinks in my city so it's nice to have some
| around ^^
| sandworm101 wrote:
| Cheapest? The one Starbucks within 50 miles of me is the
| _most_ expensive place for coffee.
| batuhanicoz wrote:
| I live in an arguably upper middle class neighborhood of
| Istanbul, one of the biggest metropolitan cities in the
| world.
|
| Most coffee shops around me are fancy third wave shops,
| making Starbucks a cheap choice. I'm sure I can find a
| cheaper places couple neighborhoods away but streets are
| not flat, traffic is always terrible and dangerous for
| pedestrians.
|
| I checked out of curiosity and we have more than 200
| branches within 50 miles of me.
| kevin_thibedeau wrote:
| Nike facilities were built close to residential areas in the
| northeast. Sprint is not an ICBM either. It's an ABM and not
| such a massive rocket that it would need a large safety zone
| around the launch site.
| sandworm101 wrote:
| The safety zone isn't to protect against the missile
| exploding. It is to keep the facility far enough away from
| the likely targets of incoming warheads that they could
| differentiate warheads from decoys. (As warheads enter the
| atmosphere the lighter decoys fall away. You want to be at
| 90* to the warhead flight path to best see this.) Some site
| were indeed near residential areas in other parts of the
| country but those were not protecting suburbs. They were
| protecting more distant targets: population centres and
| military facilities.
| dtgriscom wrote:
| Is that describing the best spot for the interceptor
| itself, or the radar guiding the interceptor? (Not
| necessarily at the same site, and I can imaging reasons
| why separate sites would be better.)
| ghaff wrote:
| It probably depended on the geography. I know in the case
| of the site in Golden Gate Recreational Area, the (Nike
| not Sprint) interceptor site is/was near the fort there.
| The control and radar systems (which have been at least
| partly brought down) were originally on a hill
| overlooking the site. I don't know if the control/radar
| system also controlled other interceptor sites or not.
| sandworm101 wrote:
| In the days before perfect network connectivity? Both.
| There are also time delay issues. You want the sensor
| (radar) the 'computer' and the launch site all close
| together so they can coordinate the intercept without
| communication delays, without long radio links that are
| likely useless during nuclear war.
|
| Sprint was meant for raw speed. It famously accelerated
| at like 100g. The shortest intercept is one that is
| launched perpendicular to the incoming warhead. The
| interceptor goes out vertical as the enemy warhead is
| coming in more horizontal on its way to the city 400km
| down the road from the interceptor base.
| ghaff wrote:
| I grew up literally next door to one about 20 miles west of
| Philadelphia. Most of the Nike sites are just ruins at this
| point like the one on Angel Island but there's one just
| over the Golden Gate from SF that's the most fully restored
| site in the US and gives tours.
| https://www.nps.gov/goga/nike-missile-site.htm
|
| They initially had conventional warheads as I recall and
| they were primarily intended as bomber defense. They'd
| explode a warhead above a flight of bombers so they'd be
| hit by a massive shock wave.
| mikewarot wrote:
| Eventually, Nike missiles had a selectable yield nuclear
| warhead. The first salvo was set to intercept at 90 miles
| away, with 40 Kiloton of yield. The next was 45 miles
| away, and 20 Kiloton, and the "Hail Mary" was directly
| overhead, with 2 Kiloton yield.
| EMM_386 wrote:
| > I'm not seeing an address for the site. I need to know what
| school district it is in, and how close to downtown and other
| activity centers. Maybe that helps explain the $50k wiggle
| room?
|
| Some of that information is on the site.
|
| Langdon, 9 miles Amenities: grocery store, gas stations, school
| district, multiple banks, shopping, drug store, building
| supplies, hardware store, hotels, movie theater
|
| Winkler, Manitoba, 45 min Amenities: chain restaraunts and
| stores including Wal-Mart
|
| Winnipeg, Manitoba, 1.5 hours Amenities: large metro city with
| many cultural attractions
|
| Grand Forks, ND, 2 hours Amenities: large metro city with many
| cultural attractions
| dylan604 wrote:
| To be honest, I was just being cute with the school
| district/amenities. What I really want to do is use the
| address to look it up on a light pollution map to see about
| using for an astronomy site.
| techzerd wrote:
| Funny
| gpsx wrote:
| What is the zoning? Can you use the land for anything other than
| a ABM site? /s
| alangibson wrote:
| My personal favorite missile. Add some Sprint replicas and this
| would make a cool, if entirely impractical, manspace.
| nix23 wrote:
| Sorry for being downvoted for the "Manspace"-word. SJW in full
| swing here at HN.
|
| BTW: Fill the Rockets with different brands of beer, and have
| your retractable Beer-Fridge-Rockets, spot on practical.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Rocket fuel has always been some sort of shot vs beer though,
| hasn't it?
|
| https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rocket+fuel+shot&t=hx&va=g&ia=web
| nix23 wrote:
| Haha did not know that...it's a heavens match then ;)
| coding123 wrote:
| Who has a favorite "missile". seriously?
| VelkaMorava wrote:
| That's what you get when your social security and education
| policy is Hunger Games equivalent in the Middle East.
| Exporting democracy one bomb at a time.
| analognoise wrote:
| Mine is the R9X "Flying Ginsu"
|
| It's a Hellfire modified to deploy effectively big swords as
| it closes in, so it only shreds people within 4ft or so of
| the target.
|
| https://www.wsj.com/articles/secret-u-s-missile-aims-to-
| kill...
| dylan604 wrote:
| Mine's the sidewinder.
| cronix wrote:
| Mine is the Minuteman II ICBM from the late 60's. My father
| launched one, as a test, but he didn't know it was a test
| at the time. They got orders, they launched. I have a
| beautiful large color photo of the one he launched coming
| out of the ground, and the key he turned mounted on a USAF
| plaque. The teeth were filed off though. He said the
| beginning of the movie War Games (missile silo scene) was
| the most accurate depiction of his job that he'd seen.
| nix23 wrote:
| Maverick and Exocet for me...well and the R-36M, but that
| one is just a bit too terrifying.
| alangibson wrote:
| R-36M aka SS-18 Satan. The name says it all.
| oxfeed65261 wrote:
| I have no favorite missle--maybe the Phoenix if I were
| pressed--but I do have a scary-nightmare-clown missle,
| and it is the Exocet.
| numpad0 wrote:
| Why do all the coolest missiles has its own GRAU index
| number? R-36's _ploop_ _pow_ _pow_ _pow_ is too Gundam,
| and so is P-800 Onyx /BrahMos, with its VLS launch and
| RCS tipover followed by IRR transition. It sounds cool
| already just sprinkling these TLAs.
| perryizgr8 wrote:
| I really think most people do. Mine is the brahmos.
| cma wrote:
| These feel like some of the most likely places to get nuked if an
| old system accidentally goes off.
| alangibson wrote:
| I wonder if there are equivalents of missilebaseforsale.com for
| the former Soviet Union
| dogma1138 wrote:
| Im sure there is the difference is that they probably sell
| the missiles too...
| bequanna wrote:
| Possibly, but you're likely buying it "as-is".
|
| I believe Elon tried to purchase a rocket from Russia many
| years ago and even travelled there to meet with people who
| claimed to be able to broker a sale.
| bserge wrote:
| You got me wondering and I could not find anything with a
| quick Google search.
|
| Apparently personal bunkers weren't popular even during the
| Cold War.
|
| https://vc.ru/story/139377-mesto-gde-mozhno-spryatatsya-
| skol...
|
| It may be that people just didn't have the money for this
| kind of stuff and oligarchs would rather build castles that
| no one knows about than buy old bunkers (which would be in
| way worse shape in ex USSR I imagine).
| lumost wrote:
| Bunkers aren't that great for long term survival. You're
| effectively betting that you can survive in a small
| isolated prison for N years to emerge without resources or
| the ability to feed yourself. You are also betting that the
| underground structure isn't going to need maintenance in
| those N years, and that you won't simply be viewed as a
| resource cache by whoever is still on the surface.
|
| Now if we start talking about remote bunkers far away from
| cities - you start also asking the question of why you
| would need a bunker! If you build an off grid house in
| Whistler BC you are highly unlikely to be targeted by a
| nuke, or be in the fallout zone of any nukes. Rural east
| coast and southeastern US are also great options. You can
| even set up a plan for a permanent farming installation in
| the event of a disaster.
| ramesh31 wrote:
| >If you build an off grid house in Whistler BC you are
| highly unlikely to be targeted by a nuke, or be in the
| fallout zone of any nukes. Rural east coast and
| southeastern US are also great options. You can even set
| up a plan for a permanent farming installation in the
| event of a disaster.
|
| You'll still just be a resource cache for whatever
| roaming bands of anarchic clans that develop amidst the
| fallout. And subsistence farming is a complete fantasy;
| you'll starve very quickly. The only survival scenario
| that is realistic in an apocalyptic world is one built
| around trade, alliances, and firepower. Feudalism,
| essentially. Anyone who thinks they'll be able to go
| their own way and remain hidden will be the first ones
| killed off.
| TheOtherHobbes wrote:
| Something something New Zealand.
|
| Which sounds good until you need a dentist or doctor and
| you discover you forgot to bring a surgery and/or
| hospital.
|
| Or a vet. Or spare parts. Or tools/medications you don't
| already have.
|
| Or any essential consumable that has a shelf life of (if
| you're lucky...) less than fifty years.
| TedDoesntTalk wrote:
| This family did it for 40 years. Not a bad run:
|
| https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/for-40-years-this-
| rus...
| drran wrote:
| Long term survival requires short term survival first.
| Bunkers are great for short term survival.
| lumost wrote:
| If surviving a nuclear Holocaust is in your priority
| list, then it's much cheaper and more effective to move
| somewhere far away from the blasts and fallout.
|
| E.g. live far away from miltary installations, keep a
| reasonable distance from metros, and avoid any place
| between the Appalachian mountains and the Sierra Nevada
| mountains (due to fallout).
| katmannthree wrote:
| I think they had plenty of government bunkers, even if
| there weren't many personal ones. There are some pretty
| interesting videos of urban explorers going through them:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKWFx0QAW2w
| post_break wrote:
| Maybe, but I feel like there has to be a whole team dedicated
| to looking where to bomb as to not waste them on targets that
| are no longer operational.
| mclightning wrote:
| That's what I thought first too. Rather, it doesn't have to be
| an old system but it can be spotted as an active missile
| launcher site by visual survillance.
| meowster wrote:
| Maybe someone adventurous could reach out to the Russian
| government and request that the site be taken off any lists
| that may or may not exist, and invite them to their
| housewarming party?
|
| Though Russia seems like a country that would say "sure" then
| add it to the list if it wasn't already just as a joke.
|
| Though China might just nuke the site just to be sure.
| IIAOPSW wrote:
| China isn't going to waste 1 of their 400 shots and abandon
| the no-first-use doctrine over something so minuscule.
|
| Look it up. The US/Soviet missile pissing contest completely
| dwarfs every other nation, even after various disarmament
| treaties. Russia still has the most.
| snet0 wrote:
| You're saying that China _won 't_ launch a nuclear first
| strike against an unused silo based on a joking email?
| Interesting commentary.
| cushychicken wrote:
| Buyer beware: lots of ICBM fuel is toxic. Due to poor containment
| practices, many former missile sites are now borderline superfund
| sites due to fuel that's leaked into the ground.
| philipkglass wrote:
| The Sprint missile was solid fueled. It couldn't leak fuel.
| cushychicken wrote:
| Ah, OK. I'm thinking of Titan, which was liquid fueled by
| some _truly nasty_ chemicals:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-25C_Titan_II#Development
| baybal2 wrote:
| Hydrazine would've long decomposed since upon air exposure
| nitrogen wrote:
| Depending on how much soaked into concrete and other
| materials, couldn't there still be outgassing?
| pinewurst wrote:
| Title is wrong - Sprint was a solid fueled ABM that was
| activated for only a few months (at most) before
| decommissioning.
| FabHK wrote:
| Anti-ballistic missile, in case you didn't know (like me).
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-ballistic_missile
| dylan604 wrote:
| I guess it's a good thing this wasn't an ICBM then, eh?
| ucarion wrote:
| It's an (old) ABM (Anti-Ballistic Missile), not ICBM
| (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile) silo. ABMs shoot down
| incoming ICBMs.
| HWR_14 wrote:
| So if I live there, I'll be able to survive the upcoming
| (eventual) nuclear war due to my own ICBM defense system!
| ucarion wrote:
| Living in the middle of nowhere is probably a better survival
| strategy, FWIW. In the event that the US is attacked, ICBM
| silos act as a nuclear sponge -- things adversaries have to
| blow up, lest we fire back using them. ABMs are targets too,
| because they enhance the sponge.
|
| So living far from silos (and their command centers), and far
| from the large cities that the sponge protects, is a better
| survival strategy. :)
| Phil987 wrote:
| Anybody know of a good website to that lists these sort of
| properties for sale? (Not just old missile bases, but other old
| government infrastructure)
| anm89 wrote:
| https://circaoldhouses.com/churches-lighthouses-quirky-conve...
|
| Circa has a site for quirky conversion listings
| Phil987 wrote:
| Thank you, this is awesome. This made me realize that I was
| really just interested in these types of homes, not just old
| gov't stuff.
| anm89 wrote:
| Yeah there's a whole world of these weird listings. If you
| like this kind of stuff send me a direct message and I'll
| show you a cool one which is my own property which I just
| signed a contract for sale, a big old church
| pjmorris wrote:
| Could this be set up as the level from Goldeneye, maybe turn the
| place into a theme park?
| Rebelgecko wrote:
| After seeing how the listing makes a big deal about how it's a
| mere 2 hours from the bustling metropolis of Grand Forks, I
| think the location might be a bit of an issue
| dharmab wrote:
| Rent it out for milsim events
| czhu12 wrote:
| I wonder how something like this could be used in practice in the
| event of a societal collapse. Who will be the governing body to
| protect your rights to this site, even if you did own it?
| mjreacher wrote:
| Here's a 6 minute video explaining the sprint missile for those
| unaware and interested (rather fascinating technology for the
| 70s) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dl9Ovwmnxw
| zerocount wrote:
| It'd be a great video if not for the robot narration voice. I
| wish people would just read it themselves. I couldn't watch it
| with that voice talking.
| dtgriscom wrote:
| I believe it's actually a person who doesn't believe in
| intonation.
| adriand wrote:
| Very fascinating and some truly stunning footage. What I can't
| help thinking about viewing this marvel of technology is what
| humanity might have achieved if the prodigious efforts and
| staggering sums that went into the Cold War arms race went into
| making the world a better place...really, as amazing as this
| is, it was ultimately a tremendous waste.
| 737min wrote:
| Avoiding war is never a waste and overall technological
| progress was faster during the Cold War..
| avalys wrote:
| They did make the world a better place, winning the Cold War
| dealt a huge blow to totalitarian communist ideology
| everywhere and many free societies replaced the old Soviet
| States.
| eschaton wrote:
| Just look at what the fall of the USSR did for life
| expectancies there!
| baybal2 wrote:
| It actually went, as it was found that union's
| demographic statistics was all forged perpetually since
| Stalin
| TedDoesntTalk wrote:
| Forged statistics or not, at least there are not millions
| being starved to death, sent to gulags, or relocated
| against their will.
| madengr wrote:
| Well I'd rather die from smoking or drinking than in a
| gulag.
| madengr wrote:
| This is HN, thus saying anything critical of socialism,
| Marxism, or communism will get you downvoted or banned (by
| someone with a 6 figure salary smacking their thumbs on the
| latest gadget).
| robocat wrote:
| Skip first two minutes.
|
| After that has a good mixture of technical and political
| limitations.
| jcims wrote:
| That's honestly why I clicked on the article, it's actually an
| ABM (anti-ballistic missle)
|
| For those that need a little teaser to be incentivized to click
| on the YouTube link, here's the title of the video 'Super
| Pointy Sprint Missile - 0 to Mach 10 in 15 Seconds - 100Gs &
| 6000degF'
|
| If you have any interest in aerospace at all and have never
| heard of the Sprint, take a gander, it's a spectacular edge
| case in engineering.
| jvilalta wrote:
| "it glows white as it flies". Wow.
| KallDrexx wrote:
| I was really confused why a Telecom owned a missile site for way
| too long....
| TedDoesntTalk wrote:
| Bell Labs did many, many more things than telecom.
| andrewmcwatters wrote:
| I'm tired of looking for bunkers to purchase and the sellers not
| including any anti-ballistic missile technology along with the
| purchase.
|
| I mean when you buy a house with a pool are you expecting any of
| the pool hardware to be removed? No.
|
| It's so inconsiderate. How am I supposed to establish my own
| sovereignty over my neighbors without missile tech? Do you know
| how much of a hassle it is to source ballistics?
|
| You think to yourself, "Wow! What a steal on a bunker!" And then
| you realize the price drop is because they've moved out all of
| the military hardware. What shysters.
|
| First, my HOA says I can't land my Apache right next to my
| bunker, and that it needs to be in its own field. Then, they say
| I can only transport warheads in the evening.
|
| It's a national tragedy and it needs to stop.
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| PaulHoule wrote:
| It's not just hardened against blast overpressure, it is hardened
| against the electromagnetic pulse created by the Sprint and
| Spartan ABM warhead...
|
| Or at least it used to be, EMP proofing takes maintenance.
|
| That kind of system risks blinding and discombobulating itself as
| soon as it takes its first shot.
| baybal2 wrote:
| > EMP proofing takes maintenance.
|
| ??????
| exhilaration wrote:
| I'm assuming that the copper EMP shielding tends to corrode
| without regular maintenance. The listing mentions there was
| very high humidity in there, I bet it did a number on the
| copper.
| TMWNN wrote:
| >It's not just hardened against blast overpressure, it is
| hardened against the electromagnetic pulse created by the
| Sprint and Spartan ABM warhead...
|
| Does this mean that cell phones won't work? (Aside from being
| underground.)
| artur_makly wrote:
| The marble kitchenette alone is worth the price.
| baybal2 wrote:
| I was very surprised to know that US ICBM sites in Dakotas are so
| poorly guarded.
|
| Russian ICBM sites are all in the middle of nowhere, and are tiny
| fortresses
| chipsa wrote:
| The idea isn't have a guard over each silo. Just make it hard
| to get into a silo and send guards over if you need to.
| coldcode wrote:
| Without the missile I am not moved by the price decrease.
| Railsify wrote:
| Check out the Death Wears Bunny Slippers Youtube channel. This
| guy and his family buy a site like this a refit it into a
| vacation home:
| https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd50A5qLv8FemVufSvDgkCQ
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