[HN Gopher] Toledo's Last Swordmakers
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       Toledo's Last Swordmakers
        
       Author : nigerian1981
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2021-08-24 12:05 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.theguardian.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theguardian.com)
        
       | CyanBird wrote:
       | Very, very sad, my growing up my grand grand father's house had
       | many swords made in Toledo and wooden decorative shields with the
       | family insignia on them, they were just decorative, he got them
       | from a trip to Spain, the swords had very thin tangs, but of
       | course me being a kid dreamed of using them for my sword play
       | 
       | Very sad to see as the article says, a several thousand year old
       | tradition such as this one being so, so close to ending, I feel
       | that the Spanish government ought to step up and find with
       | arrangement for these artisans to ensure that the city doesn't
       | lose such strong cultural heritage
        
         | Andrew_nenakhov wrote:
         | Don't worry. Once swords would once again become useful on the
         | battlefield and in dark alleys, this skill will resurface and
         | thrive again.
         | 
         | Chances for it are not small enough.
        
           | hourislate wrote:
           | I had a Japanese friend who says he had a real Samurai Outfit
           | and sword. It was giving to him by his Grandmother who had
           | inherited it from her family. When Lord of the Rings came
           | out, a different fellow I worked with bought a replica of
           | Anduril Sword from LOTR's. There was a discussion at work
           | about how good the Anduril sword was which led to a
           | challenge. I was to wear the Samurai Outfit since it was my
           | size and use the Samurai sword and he was to fashion some
           | armor and use the Anduril sword. He backed out after his wife
           | threatened him and me.
        
       | brianzelip wrote:
       | Toledo, Spain. The inspiration behind the Toledo(, Ohio) Blade
       | newspaper.
        
         | simonw wrote:
         | Hah, TIL! Always wondered how that newspaper got that name.
        
         | adpirz wrote:
         | As someone who grew up in Toledo, I get unnaturally excited
         | whenever someone else is from there. Most people I encounter
         | from Ohio (which in big coastal cities is also not that common)
         | are from one of the big C's: Cleveland, Columbus, or
         | Cincinnati.
        
       | hermitcrab wrote:
       | I made a knife at a forge a few weeks ago. Hitting things with a
       | hammer made a nice change from programming. Also makes you
       | appreciate how skillful you would have to be to make a beautiful
       | sword.
       | 
       | If anyone is interested in medieval swords and armour I really
       | recommend a visit to the Wallace Collection in London.
        
         | simonw wrote:
         | +1 to that, the Wallace Collection is incredible - I think it's
         | one of those things in London that not nearly enough people
         | know about.
         | 
         | It's also got an interesting history: "Bequeathed to the nation
         | by the widow of the illegitimate son of the 4th Marquess of
         | Hertford in 1897 on the condition that no object should ever
         | leave the collection, even for loan exhibitions." - from my
         | write-up on https://www.niche-museums.com/36
        
           | hermitcrab wrote:
           | Love than Stone Henge is listed on https://www.niche-
           | museums.com !
        
         | _jal wrote:
         | I haven't forged anything yet, looking forward to an
         | opportunity to spend some quality time playing early next year.
         | 
         | I've made a couple knives this year, though. Milling, and then
         | grinding on absolutely the wrong kind of grinder for the job.
         | So that was exhausting, but fun.
         | 
         | > a nice change from programming
         | 
         | I absolutely agree. I took up metalwork because I wanted to
         | make something visible, that you could touch. Weaponry isn't
         | really my thing, but I'll probably make more knives, I enjoy
         | the esthetic constraints, history of the art and materials.
        
       | inasio wrote:
       | Many kids grow up reading pirate books and you quickly learn that
       | Toledo or Damascus steel is what you want. I'm pretty sure that
       | once travel normalizes and tourists come back people will start
       | making swords again in Toledo, if only to capitalize on kids like
       | me that eventually visit with a bit of disposable income...
        
       | slim wrote:
       | The swords are unexpectedly affordable.
       | 
       | https://marianozamorano.com/en/6-swords
       | 
       | I feel like any rpg lover should own at least a small dagger.
        
       | woofie11 wrote:
       | I don't get the economics here. The sword run around 300 euro in
       | the online storefront, and claim to be 10-20 hours of work. I pay
       | about 15-30 euro per hour of labor.
       | 
       | Toss in equipment, materials, labor, overhead, taxes, benefits,
       | and all the other stuff, and I just don't see how this can be
       | done. Either the income is McD's, or there's something fishy
       | going on.
       | 
       | I'm also not clear what "last master swordsmith" even means.
       | 
       | Anyone got an explanation? I'm wondering if this is a nice
       | marketing piece, if I'm missing something, or something else. I'm
       | probably missing something, but...
        
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