[HN Gopher] Old iPhones become faster if you change the region t...
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       Old iPhones become faster if you change the region to France
        
       Author : fomine3
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2021-08-24 17:07 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | greatgib wrote:
       | Some people are pretending that it is a user feature to throttle
       | and that it is to have a more stable phone when the battery
       | becomes older.
       | 
       | But, if my memory is good, when Apple was fined in France, it was
       | shown that the throttling was performed without consideration for
       | the battery state. So was done even with a new battery (or the
       | power cord plugged)
       | 
       | Also, for people having Stockholm syndrome, if they would have to
       | throttle to preserve stability when the battery is old, it is not
       | a "nice" user feature but a consequence of having made the
       | battery not removable and easily swappable!
        
       | TurkishPoptart wrote:
       | Is this because France launched the lawsuit against alleged
       | planned obsolescence?
        
         | sodality2 wrote:
         | "The reason for the smoothness is that Apple has been fined by
         | France for the frequency reduction incident. This means that
         | the company can not temper the performance of old iPhones in
         | the country."
        
       | syspec wrote:
       | Using this trick, the phone will also die suddenly at 30% power
       | if the cpu draws too much power at once and the old battery
       | cannot keep up.
       | 
       | The throttling is there to prevent the instant shutdown due to
       | old batteries having a lower peak output
        
         | Daedren wrote:
         | Without the trick, you don't know if you require a new battery
         | or a new phone.
        
           | jazzyjackson wrote:
           | Settings > Battery will show you whether a new battery is
           | recommended
           | 
           | https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207453
        
         | gattilorenz wrote:
         | > The throttling is there to prevent the instant shutdown due
         | to old batteries having a lower peak output
         | 
         | Sure, but it would be nice to be informed about it (so I can
         | choose to get my battery replaced instead) and to be able to
         | turn it off without changing the location to France
        
           | duskwuff wrote:
           | > it would be nice to be informed about it
           | 
           | You are. When the phone reboots as a result of power
           | problems, you get a notification that says:
           | 
           | "This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because
           | the battery was unable to deliver the necessary peak power.
           | Performance management has been applied to help prevent this
           | from happening again."
           | 
           | Describing CPU throttling as "performance management" is
           | perhaps a little stilted, but all the basic information is
           | there.
           | 
           | > to be able to turn it off without changing the location to
           | France
           | 
           | You can. It's in the Battery settings. It's not super obvious
           | (small text link that says "Disable..." after a description
           | of the throttling), but it's there.
        
         | 6gvONxR4sf7o wrote:
         | Old iphones become more stable if you change the region from
         | France!
         | 
         | In all seriousness, it frustrates me how much of the focus was
         | on the bad half of the _tradeoff_ rather than the lack of
         | messaging. Now you have people who believe apple deliberately
         | slowed old models for no reason other than because they 're
         | old.
        
           | sixothree wrote:
           | Twice in my life an irreversible update has made an iPhone
           | slow to the point of being unusable.
           | 
           | People are skeptical for a reason.
        
             | k12sosse wrote:
             | Fool me once.. fool me twice.. won't get fooled again.
        
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