[HN Gopher] Self-powered diaper sensors that monitor urine sugar...
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       Self-powered diaper sensors that monitor urine sugar levels
        
       Author : rustoo
       Score  : 50 points
       Date   : 2021-08-23 14:57 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | Benjamin_Dobell wrote:
       | There's a few comments about baby diapers. It's not explicitly
       | stated in the article or paper, but I believe this all pertains
       | to adult diapers only, due to the fact diabetes _prevention_ is
       | mentioned.
       | 
       | Type 1 diabetes is not (known to be) preventable, and Type 2
       | diabetes must be inordinately rare in infants; if there's ever
       | been a case at all.
       | 
       | Perhaps we're still a little while off receiving electronic
       | notifications telling us we need to change our child's diaper.
        
         | maximegarcia wrote:
         | I think this is for babies.
         | 
         | Type 1 is not preventable, but detecting it is important as it
         | could arise in infants (half of cases). Consequences are kind
         | of hard if ignored / not detected. Then proper glucose
         | monitoring can be set.
         | 
         | And more generally, detecting glucose level from urine is a bit
         | late for any kind of diabetes. So pretty useless for Type 2
         | monitoring I think.
        
         | azalemeth wrote:
         | It _is_ implied that this is for adults:
         | 
         | > Moreover, to measure urine sugar levels in elderly or long-
         | term care patients, sensors can be embedded directly into their
         | diapers.
         | 
         | The paper itself explicitly states that it is for long-term
         | care -- from its abstract:
         | 
         | > A self-driven sensor that can detect urine and urine sugar
         | and can be mounted on diapers is desirable to reduce the burden
         | of long-term care.
         | 
         | Modern diapers are remarkably complex. The super-absorbent
         | polymer inside is really quite ingenious; and it's my
         | understanding that brands have proprietary chemistry going on
         | inside to prevent urea breaking down into ammonia and producing
         | a smell, and damaging the patient's skin.
         | 
         | I sustained an injury to my spinal cord earlier this year, and
         | all of this became much more personal - I have to say, compared
         | to a urinary catheter (a device that can only be described as
         | 'evil and tortuous') diapers are _positively_ idyllic...
        
       | marktangotango wrote:
       | Whether meant for adults or not, juvenile diabetes is real and
       | often overlooked. Anyone who has children or ever hopes to have
       | children should file away the fact that fruity smelling
       | diapers/urine could indicate a real problem.
        
       | lolc wrote:
       | Haha, piss-powered, Bluetooth-enabled diapers? Truly the Internet
       | of Shit is upon us. And as somebody with two medical devices
       | attached that communicate via Bluetooth, I can hardly be in
       | opposition to the idea.
        
         | geek_at wrote:
         | it'll be marketed to eldercare and in the end the only ones
         | buying will be overly anxious parents of newborns
         | 
         | (anxious first time father writing this) :D
        
           | lostlogin wrote:
           | Hang in there - I'm not sure the anxiety reduces, you just
           | get used to it!
           | 
           | I came here to rant about the amount of nappies in landfill
           | and the waste increase in adding electronics.
           | 
           | I was quite wrong.
           | 
           | I do think that reusables _where possible_ offer huge
           | reduction in waste generation, but this is borderline
           | irrelevant in the context of adults.
        
         | buescher wrote:
         | "Put a chip in it!"
        
           | TeMPOraL wrote:
           | Makes me think: having chip on your shoulder is not something
           | considered positive.
        
       | canada_dry wrote:
       | > diaper sensors that can generate energy directly from urine
       | 
       | I'm guessing this could lead to light-up Huggies baby diapers.
       | 
       |  _" Takes the guess work out of busy parenting"_
        
         | ta1234567890 wrote:
         | Already most diapers (for babies) have a yellow strip that
         | turns blue with pee. No lights or electronics needed.
        
           | code_duck wrote:
           | This system could issue an alert to send a nurse to change
           | the diaper, which is a significant advance over requiring
           | visual inspection.
        
             | bluGill wrote:
             | Not really, babies need constant monitoring anyway so you
             | will figure out the need fast enough.
        
           | jlg23 wrote:
           | I think they are aiming at the elderly; most babies dont need
           | their glucose levels monitored constantly...
        
           | canada_dry wrote:
           | Ah, but does it flash? Can it been seen in the dark - without
           | waking up baby?
        
             | nodefortytwo wrote:
             | why would you want that? nobody would wake a baby to change
             | a diaper.
        
               | wincy wrote:
               | You might be underestimating just how deeply children
               | sleep.
               | 
               | My kid gets her diaper changed several times a night and
               | sleeps through it. If she does wake up she cries for a
               | drink of water then immediately goes back to sleep.
        
               | purrcat259 wrote:
               | If the nappy can't handle another round of pee or poop
               | then yeah I might consider waking the baby up to avoid
               | them waking up thanks to the pee.
               | 
               | The secret is in changes before naps though :)
        
               | recursive wrote:
               | If it was a big squishy poop at risk of an overflow
               | blowout I would.
        
         | klyrs wrote:
         | Light-up diapers sound like a rave fashion trend from hell.
         | Maybe I should patent that just to prevent it from taking off
         | until I'm too old to attend raves...
        
       | mjcohen wrote:
       | I expect this to appear in Marvin soon.
       | 
       | https://www.comicskingdom.com/marvin
        
       | ghostpepper wrote:
       | You can also buy a blanket for your infant child that will
       | monitor their heart rate and blood oxygen saturation and transmit
       | it to your phone, but that doesn't mean most people need or will
       | even benefit from knowing that information.
       | 
       | Hopefully at some point we reach the point where we stop asking
       | what else can be connected to the cloud and start considering
       | what should not be.
        
         | moonchrome wrote:
         | Good luck getting my little guy to stay under the blanket. I
         | did consider one of those "sock" monitors but I had to get too
         | much baby stuff as is.
        
         | hpoe wrote:
         | My wife kept wanting to get that for our kids. I told her no,
         | because all it would do is increase her anxiety. So far we are
         | 3/3 kids and all of them have been fine without it thus far.
        
       | hammyhavoc wrote:
       | Delicious urine sugar.
        
         | thatguy0900 wrote:
         | They used to taste and examine urine as a medical exam. You can
         | find old charts used for diagnosis called urine wheels.
         | Diabetic urine is supposedly very sweet
        
           | hellbannedguy wrote:
           | I taste mine occasionally. I'm a licensed hypochondriac. To
           | those that are into hillbilly medicine, try to get a taste
           | for your urine right after a blood test, so you know what
           | normal glucose in the urine tastes like. It should not be
           | sweet at all.
        
         | xxs wrote:
         | An ancient way was pouring urine under a stone - if ants would
         | be gathering , the patient was presumed sick.
        
       | mcculley wrote:
       | I have been wondering for years when we will get automatic health
       | diagnostics from our toilets. It looks like some of the tech is
       | certainly cheap enough now.
        
         | not_throw_away wrote:
         | You mean like this? https://s-there.com/
        
           | smoldesu wrote:
           | Careful there, Smart Pipe[0]
           | 
           | [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ
        
           | mcculley wrote:
           | Interesting! It does not look like they are shipping a
           | product yet though.
        
       | h2odragon wrote:
       | Good one. there's gotta be some value in not having to stick
       | needles in babies and old people quite so often.
        
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