[HN Gopher] Bigger vehicles are directly resulting in more death...
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Bigger vehicles are directly resulting in more deaths of people
walking
Author : tonyedgecombe
Score : 29 points
Date : 2021-08-22 20:34 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| barney54 wrote:
| Did I miss the part where they show that pedestrian deaths have
| actually increased? They show that the proportion of SUVs hitting
| pedestrians have increased which makes sense because there are
| more SUVs, but I didn't see that the actual deaths have
| increased. Maybe I missed it!
| jdavis703 wrote:
| I can't find data going up until 2020, but there are easily
| searchable news articles reporting on 2020 being a record year
| for deaths. Here's some data, but it only goes to 2018:
| https://www.ghsa.org/resources/Pedestrians19
| wgjordan wrote:
| The linked Dangerous by Design 2021 report [1] shows the data
| on increased pedestrian deaths:
|
| > The number of people struck and killed by drivers nationwide
| while walking increased by an astonishing 45 percent over the
| last decade (2010-2019).
|
| [1] https://smartgrowthamerica.org/dangerous-by-design/
| grawprog wrote:
| I know it's not science, there's no data or anything. But, i've
| almost been hit as a pedestrian just under 10 times. Every single
| time it was by either a Mercedes or BMW sedan. My sister was hit
| by a BMW sedan driver, her back's been fucked ever since. Almost
| everyone I know that's been involved in an accident as a
| pedestrian has been hit by either a Mercedes or BMW sedan.
|
| ETA: Seeing as I'm getting downvoted, might as well keep going
| they've also always inevitably hit and run, or been incredibly
| rude and scream at you as they almost kill you with their half
| ton of plastic and metal when they're not paying attention to the
| road.
| [deleted]
| FridayoLeary wrote:
| Which is ironic since cars needs to be bigger today in order to
| conform to safety regulations, which include pedestrian safety.
| Causality1 wrote:
| You're getting downvoted but that's a valid point. If you spend
| any time around older vehicles you notice how "chunky" modern
| cars are, how little passenger volume they have compared to
| their outer dimensions. I'm not saying those measures aren't
| worth it, but they are making cars bigger.
| newacct583 wrote:
| I don't think that's responsive. Regulations are forcing up the
| size of the _smallest_ vehicles. The median vehicle in the US
| is a SUV with almost twice the curb weight of those "larger"
| compacts.
|
| The change in median vehicle weight is absolutely not being
| caused by safety regulations.
| Someone wrote:
| FTA: "federal policymakers have so far failed to make any
| significant changes to the New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) to
| include testing, ratings, or safety standards for people
| outside a vehicle, whether on foot, bike, or using assistive
| devices.
|
| _Read that again: we do not test for, or even consider, the
| impact of a new car's design on potential collisions with human
| beings not in a vehicle--an action that results in a death more
| than 6,200 times per year and increasing almost every year._ "
|
| = I don't think what you say is true in the USA.
| wyager wrote:
| The front ~1foot of my car is 90% air, presumably to create
| some crumple zone. Very space-inefficient.
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