[HN Gopher] Apple's Past Sideloading Plans
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       Apple's Past Sideloading Plans
        
       Author : mortenjorck
       Score  : 83 points
       Date   : 2021-08-20 15:49 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.macrumors.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.macrumors.com)
        
       | coolandsmartrr wrote:
       | Maybe link to the original article?
       | 
       | https://www.theverge.com/22611236/epic-v-apple-emails-projec...
        
         | mortenjorck wrote:
         | I considered linking to that instead, but the Verge piece
         | buries the lede that Jobs signed off on an iOS sideloading
         | workflow in 2008.
        
           | chipotle_coyote wrote:
           | It's an interesting bit of information. I remember back when
           | Gatekeeper was introduced on the Mac, I fully expected it to
           | make its way to iOS the following year in a form that only
           | allowed signed apps to run -- it seemed like it would allow
           | the benefits of sideloading to users while letting Apple keep
           | a measure of control. (That may seem naive now, but when
           | Gatekeeper was introduced in 2012, App Store revenue was a
           | pretty small part of Apple's business -- it was still being
           | listed as part of "Other Music-Related Products and Services"
           | as of their Q4 2012 10Q statement.)
        
       | 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
       | > _In October 2010, Jobs declared at a corporate strategy
       | presentation that a key company aim would be to use the cloud to
       | "tie all of our products together, so we further lock customers
       | into our ecosystem."_
       | 
       | On promoting competitor apps:
       | 
       | > _No promotion... we are not going to promote something that
       | puts it 's goal as replacing our music player unless it is
       | significantly better than our player and this is not._
       | 
       | There is a lot of anti-competitive shit here, I'm pretty
       | appalled.
        
         | badmadrad wrote:
         | As someone who uses both android and iphone I don't see a
         | problem with this. I find that there are many horrible apps to
         | wade through with differing UI experiences and quality on
         | android it ends up being very clunky jumping from app to app.
         | However, I find the apple ecosystem a bit more regulated to
         | ensure you get an elegant and consistent experience. For the
         | average user, I think thats what they want.
        
       | warning26 wrote:
       | The relevant quote about Steve Jobs signing off on an iOS
       | sideloading-related prompt, from a 2008-era email:
       | 
       |  _> Just two months after declaring that "the App Store is going
       | to be the exclusive way to distribute iPhone applications," iOS
       | chief Scott Forstall asked which of these two templates Jobs
       | preferred: "The application 'Monkey Ball' from the developer
       | 'Sega' did not come from the App Store. Do you want to open it?"
       | or "Are you sure you want to open the application 'Monkey Ball'
       | from the developer 'Sega'?" Jobs picked the latter._
       | 
       | Interestingly, about 4 years later, a very similar string ended
       | up being used in Mac OS Lion with the release of Gatekeeper.
        
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