[HN Gopher] Dubai Is a Parody of the 21st Century
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       Dubai Is a Parody of the 21st Century
        
       Author : tartoran
       Score  : 96 points
       Date   : 2021-08-18 15:42 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (youtube.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (youtube.com)
        
       | Barrin92 wrote:
       | the gulf states are a weird place to be. For the most part it
       | really does have a complete fakeness to it. Being there feels
       | exactly like what it is, a bunch of autocratic new money building
       | itself status symbols. However I would call it more 20th century
       | than 21st century, because all the aesthetics are like someone
       | watched to many Western sci-fi movies of the 60s, 70s and 80s
       | like Blade Runner and then decided to build exactly that because
       | it looked cool, weirdly retro-futuristic.
       | 
       | It's also often weird in a way that it tries to blend local and
       | traditional culture with its material excess, but in a way you
       | would expect from someone at the other end of the world who
       | doesn't actually know anything about it.
        
       | okareaman wrote:
       | It seems like the time start was unintentionally shared with the
       | link. It is much better to watch all 12 minutes, not just the
       | end.
        
         | tartoran wrote:
         | Yes, I accidentally do that and can't edit the link.
         | 
         | @dang Is it possible that you remove the time (t) tag in this
         | link? Thanks
        
       | freemint wrote:
       | I watcher this video a few days before. For everyone interested
       | in the overarching why and if you can stand a lot of rambling
       | there is this [1] episode of problem of "Well There is your
       | problem".
       | 
       | [1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=PW6lg-7L7yk
        
       | stefantalpalaru wrote:
       | Then there's the "Dubai Porta Potty" phenomenon:
       | https://travellingjezebel.com/dubai-porta-potty/
        
       | nix23 wrote:
       | And Qatar is not better in that regard.
       | 
       | >Revealed: 6,500 migrant workers have died in Qatar since World
       | Cup awarded
       | 
       | https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/feb/23/r...
       | 
       | Thank you FIFA for knowing it beforehand and give a shi* about
       | it...once more.
        
       | tartoran wrote:
       | I the thing that I was surprised the most to hear was that those
       | skyscrapers sewage is carried by trucks outside Dubai and dumped
       | who knows where. I've heard of slavery stories before and am
       | surprised they still get any new workers recruited, the stories
       | I've heard are horrific. This is a place I will never visit, even
       | if the trip is all paid for by someone else.
        
         | zepearl wrote:
         | > _I the thing that I was surprised the most to hear was that
         | those skyscrapers sewage is carried by trucks outside Dubai and
         | dumped who knows where._
         | 
         | Mmmhh, does not seem to be 100% correct? At least not in
         | relation to the Burj Khalifa as mentioned by the video... .
         | 
         | https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/52204/is-the-se...
         | =>
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20140110091115/http://repository...
         | 
         |  _A complete soil, waste and vent system from plumbing
         | fixtures, floor drains and mechanical equipment arranged for
         | gravity flow and, ejector discharge to a point of connection
         | with the city municipal sewer is provided. A complete storm
         | drainage system from roofs, decks, terraces and plazas arranged
         | for gravity flow to a point of connection with the city
         | municipal sewer system is provided.*_
        
         | hasmanean wrote:
         | > dumped who knows where
         | 
         | Lol, maybe there's a spot in the desert. A brown spot. Probably
         | visible from space.
        
         | bin_bash wrote:
         | I found that incredibly hard to believe and it appears to be
         | false: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/52204/is-
         | the-se...
        
       | cblconfederate wrote:
       | Worth noting that this guy's channel is overly dismissive of
       | everyone, sometimes strawmanning, and a bit nihilist. That said,
       | Dubai turned to an unmitigated disaster of a real estate excess
       | which will disintegrate in the sand from which it came unless its
       | owners do something completely drastic. Covid-19 put the
       | tombstone in the plans to build the Las Vegas of middle east
        
         | jhbadger wrote:
         | There are things and people he is for -- he isn't dismissive of
         | everyone and everything. For example, he is a fan of
         | traditional rail and subway systems and thinks we should build
         | more of them. What he is dismissive of (and I think with
         | reason) are things like the hyperloop, which he suspects not
         | only are unworkable, but are promoted precisely to avoid
         | investing in proven infrastructure like trains and subways and
         | instead waiting for this miracle technology that will be ready
         | "any day now".
        
           | Tarsul wrote:
           | whats his opinion on maglev (Transrapid) trains?
        
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