[HN Gopher] The Creativity Code
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       The Creativity Code
        
       Author : mathgenius
       Score  : 12 points
       Date   : 2021-08-18 12:22 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | crazy_horse wrote:
       | I wonder if any of his angst would be calmed if he understood
       | what modern machine learning (deep learning even) is. It really
       | doesn't sound like the original author has more than a passing
       | familiarity, even being a math genius.
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       | Right now and for the foreseeable future machines work well at
       | the limited tasks they are trained to do but still require a
       | human to design and they require beautiful algorithms of the kind
       | being fretted about.
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       | I don't see the point of this angst or doom and gloom of the Musk
       | variety until we are anywhere near that.
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       | Tariq Rashid is an author that makes this very, very
       | approachable.
        
         | karmakaze wrote:
         | I wasn't picking up on any doom/gloom and thought it's was ok
         | broad coverage of the area.
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         | > The algorithmic moments that he finds unequivocally creative
         | -- AlphaGo's "truly creative act" or the Continuator's
         | emulation of Bernard Lubat -- du Sautoy qualifies as
         | "exploratory creativity." Combinatorial creativity is
         | exemplified by Francois Pachet's Flow Machine creating a jazz
         | synthesis of Charlie Parker with Pierre Boulez. As for
         | transformational creativity, du Sautoy hasn't yet seen it, but
         | he is prudent enough not to rule it out, allowing for the
         | possibility of meta-algorithms "designed to break the rules and
         | see what happens."
         | 
         | This seems as balanced a description as I could expect.
        
         | tartoran wrote:
         | > I don't see the point of this angst or doom and gloom of the
         | Musk variety until we are anywhere near that.
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         | I think that if we get near that point it will become an
         | unstoppable affair. For now it seems we are heading into an
         | unknown and unclear direction. Creating artificial consciousn
         | bodyless humans may not be possible but imitations of it surely
         | will come around.
        
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