[HN Gopher] The Cult of Mary Beard (2018)
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The Cult of Mary Beard (2018)
Author : revolucien
Score : 34 points
Date : 2021-08-18 08:31 UTC (14 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.theguardian.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.theguardian.com)
| calderapenguin wrote:
| "Last year, when a far-right conspiracy theorist attacked a BBC
| cartoon...."
|
| lol. You mean Nassim Nicholas Taleb? Who is probably better known
| than Ms. Beard?
|
| Good Lord, is there any reason to even read a newspaper anymore?
| They're all just propaganda pamphlets.
| cafard wrote:
| I wasn't aware there was a cult of Mary Beard: perhaps you have
| to be in Great Britain to be aware of it. The author certainly
| seems to be a paid-up member.
|
| I did recently read and enjoy _SPQR_.
| [deleted]
| calderapenguin wrote:
| Her shows too easily slip into Historian's Fallacy.
|
| It pays the bills I guess, but there's always something
| untowards about TV intellectuals. It's like getting your
| science news from Neil deGrasse Tyson.
| the_biot wrote:
| Just because The Guardian has an article saying so, doesn't
| make it true. It's a propaganda rag, not a newspaper.
|
| Getting your news from multiple sources is a good thing, but
| exclude the extremes from all sides.
| andybak wrote:
| Judging the extremes rather depends on deciding where the
| center lies.
| somewhereoutth wrote:
| The Guardian would only appear extreme to those who's world
| views have fallen off the other side.
|
| A simple question helps get things back on keel:
|
| "Do you care about other people beyond those that directly
| benefit you?"
| thrower123 wrote:
| The Guardian ought to be blacklisted here. The articles are
| terrible and predictably devolve into flamewars in the
| comments.
| js290 wrote:
| "One nonwhite can substitute for another. If that's not racial
| supremacism, what is?" https://medium.com/east-med-project-
| history-philology-and-ge...
| dang wrote:
| Discussed at the time:
|
| _How a late-blossoming classics don became Britain's most
| beloved intellectual_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16269954 - Jan 2018 (92
| comments)
| jimnotgym wrote:
| When all of thay stuff between her and the black swan bloke
| (Nassim Nicholas Taleb) happened, I was amazed with how he sought
| to bully her with his opinion, how he tried to drum up hate
| towards her, and his utter contempt for field other than
| statistics. I realised then that this was exactly why she had to
| write 'Women and Power' etc.
| AzzieElbab wrote:
| I think he just called her a fraud, and honestly, I never seen
| him making a mistake in this regard. Here:
|
| https://medium.com/east-med-project-history-philology-and-ge...
|
| pretty entertaining twitter thread
| https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/892567659342114816
| marcellus23 wrote:
| Mary Beard is absolutely not "a fraud" just because you
| disagree with her view on diversity. (fwiw I also don't
| particularly like that tweet of hers, but come on.)
| AzzieElbab wrote:
| well, I guess neither of us is a member of same ethnic
| group as Taleb. For him that was personal
| marcellus23 wrote:
| So? That makes it okay to call a distinguished scholar a
| fraud? (is that a claim Taleb ever made? or just you?)
| AzzieElbab wrote:
| absolutely. He demonstrated her claims to be both
| baseless and racist
| booleandilemma wrote:
| Part of Taleb's philosophy is "if you see fraud and do
| not say fraud, you are a fraud".
|
| I don't think he calls people frauds lightly.
| andybak wrote:
| It's possible that she's nice and wrong and he's right but a
| dick about it.
|
| It's also possible that there's more nuance to this than
| that.
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