[HN Gopher] Difference between dialogue, discussion, and debate
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       Difference between dialogue, discussion, and debate
        
       Author : PaulHoule
       Score  : 43 points
       Date   : 2021-08-17 20:30 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | xcambar wrote:
       | We must give credit to the aurhors for using silence as a metrics
       | to determine which method of communication you're participating
       | in / witnessing.
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       | This is subtle and very enlightening.
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       | Listening to and understanding the silence is very valuable to
       | read the situation, understand the intentions of the participants
       | and use it to redirect/reframe it.
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       | I had never read anything about that worded explicitly and I'm
       | glad I found this article on HN today.
        
       | throwawaysea wrote:
       | I love how concisely this frames the nuanced differences between
       | these terms.
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       | Also, tangentially related, a recent discussion titled "Against
       | Persuasion": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27980578
        
       | dr_dshiv wrote:
       | What about dialectic or discourse?
        
       | breck wrote:
       | My stove has many backburners.
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       | On one of those backburners is an idea for a new restricted
       | grammar that would force constructive debate.
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       | Free form natural language text would be an error and not
       | submittable. In other words, an automod programmed via a grammar.
       | 
       | You could only post things that would flush out the complexity
       | and numeric tree of the issue at hand. So perhaps links, numbers,
       | tables, simulations, et cetera. Perhaps the strictness of the
       | grammar could increase with some indicator of the flaminess of
       | the debate.
       | 
       | I think this could be a fun project. I have not taken a stab at
       | it yet and would be interested in any prior art.
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       | https://github.com/treenotation/research/issues/4
        
         | bwestergard wrote:
         | There is quite a lot of prior art. A good place to start would
         | be by looking into the "Vienna Circle" of philosophers.
        
         | HPsquared wrote:
         | One could restrict unparliamentary language:
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         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unparliamentary_language
        
           | breck wrote:
           | Ooh thank you. "Parliament" is also a good name for a new
           | computer language.
        
           | loceng wrote:
           | Seems like gatekeeping and suppression has successfully made
           | its way into our government discourse - preventing calling
           | out people for lying being frowned upon is bullshit.
        
       | satisfice wrote:
       | This does not frame debate effectively. Debate is a process of
       | testing ideas, it is not necessarily competitive. What
       | characterizes debate is your purpose (to discover problems with
       | ideas) not your tactics.
        
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